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    What is Romney hiding II?

    According to a Reuters report in December 2011, Romney staff spent nearly $100,000 to hide records.

    (Reuters) - Mitt Romney spent nearly $100,000 in state funds to replace computers in his office at the end of his term as governor of Massachusetts in 2007 as part of an unprecedented effort to keep his records secret, Reuters has learned.

    The move during the final weeks of Romney's administration was legal but unusual for a departing governor, Massachusetts officials say.
    When Romney left the governorship of Massachusetts, 11 of his aides bought the hard drives of their state-issued computers to keep for themselves. Also before he left office, the governor's staff had emails and other electronic communications by Romney's administration wiped from state servers, state officials say.

    Those actions erased much of the internal documentation of Romney's four-year tenure as governor, which ended in January 2007. Precisely what information was erased is unclear.

    Republican and Democratic opponents of Romney say the scrubbing of emails - and a claim by Romney that paper records of his governorship are not subject to public disclosure - hinder efforts to assess his performance as a politician and elected official.
    Theresa Dolan, former director of administration for the governor's office, told Reuters that Romney's efforts to control or wipe out records from his governorship were unprecedented.
    It is only prudent to assume that Mitt Romney is covering up disturbing, perhaps even illegal, elements of his past and dealings that he knows would be unacceptable to American voters.

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    Obama wasn't as transparent as he promised to be, but somehow he doesn't seem so bad now. It is like that story where the wise man makes one line look shorter by drawing another one right next to it that is twice as long.

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    Quote Quote by: barts View Post
    It is only prudent to assume that Mitt Romney is covering up disturbing, perhaps even illegal, elements of his past and dealings that he knows would be unacceptable to American voters.
    This actually warrants another "what is Romney hiding II"?

    So what? He wiped his computers, big fucking deal. It was smart and legal to do so. I love the play on words of "spending 100,000 to HIDE records". LOL. He bought new computers....Oooooooo....this is actually fun to watch.

    So here is my headline. Obama spends 1.4 million of taxpayers money to HIDE records....and other horrible things.

    I thought it was Obama paying 1.4 million or some figure like that to conceal records. Wasn't that also tax payers money? Let's find out.

    Obama records still hidden, Original birth certificate, College records, Senate records, Obama used tax payer dollars to hide records | Citizen WElls

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    Quote Quote by: Trojan_Ripper View Post
    This actually warrants another "what is Romney hiding II"?
    What we see with Romney is a pattern of lies, deceit, and cover ups. We also know that he is not adverse to inflicting any harm or horror on people whatsoever in order to enrich himself. Obama was a community organizer, Romney an adviser to oligarchs running death squads.

    I agree that some may prefer a President who favors the wealthy at the expense of everyone else and is not opposed to murder and torture in order to preserve and enhance the wealth of the "1%".

    As Romney's lies are exposed, I or others may post others versions of What is Romney Hiding?

    I encourage you to use this forum to expose Obama's record.

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    That isn't equivalent. We have no evidence he erased anything, and the records requested after he became a public servant don't necessarily exist. Your website was going and on about his state senate records; he claims as a state senator he didn't have comprehensive notes of his comings and goings because he was too much of a small fry. That is plausible.

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    Quote Quote by: Trojan_Ripper View Post
    So here is my headline. Obama spends 1.4 million of taxpayers money to HIDE records....and other horrible things.
    -Citations needed.

    Quote Quote by: Trojan_Ripper View Post
    I thought it was Obama paying 1.4 million or some figure like that to conceal records. Wasn't that also tax payers money? Let's find out.
    Can you please provide evidence taht Obama used 1.4 million tax dollars to hide his records?

    Birth Certificate: Obama releases his Hawaii birth certificate

    College Recrods: Quite frankly Obama's college records are no where near as important as Romney's tax returns. Obama attended Harvard Law school, Columbia University and Occidental College.

    Senate Record: Obama's senate record is transparent and is just as transparent as anyone elses's.


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    Quote Quote by: truthreality View Post
    -Citations needed.
    I need citations for my OWN headline? Hold on while I get Harry on the phone and we will make up some. Be right back. LOL

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    College Recrods: Quite frankly Obama's college records are no where near as important as Romney's tax returns. Obama attended Harvard Law school, Columbia University and Occidental College.
    You know I really don't care if it's the same or not. They're both bullshit, but I'll just go ahead and say, "Prove it with his school records". Like I've stated before (yawn) "make all political figures release every record of their entire fucking life" and they follow through with the requirement or they're not allowed a seat. Simple and fair.

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    Quote Quote by: Trojan_Ripper View Post
    I need citations for my OWN headline? Hold on while I get Harry on the phone and we will make up some. Be right back. LOL
    Well, yes. You made the claim that Obama spent 1.4 million of tax payers money on hiding his records. Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?

    Quote Quote by: Trojan_Ripper View Post
    You know I really don't care if it's the same or not. They're both bullshit, but I'll just go ahead and say, "Prove it with his school records". Like I've stated before (yawn) "make all political figures release every record of their entire fucking life" and they follow through with the requirement or they're not allowed a seat. Simple and fair.
    I don't think Romney's tax returns are bullshit. Romney's tax returns demonstrate how he conducted business. Already we have discovered that Romney's conduction of business has been a bit shady.


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    Quote Quote by: barts View Post
    What we see with Romney is a pattern of lies, deceit, and cover ups. We also know that he is not adverse to inflicting any harm or horror on people whatsoever in order to enrich himself. Obama was a community organizer, Romney an adviser to oligarchs running death squads.
    But you have seen or been presented the same pattern of lies, deciet, and cover-ups with Obama. Because you won't address them doesn't make them go away.

    Where is your evidence of Romney being an advisor to death squads? WTF? This is almost as bad as Romney causing cancer deaths.

    You don't vote here in the U.S. (that I know of) but I will tell you that if the Democrats keep up with this type of slander and outlandish bullshiting lies (that common people see through) they will lose the election and possiably not see the inside of the oval office for years.

    Quote Quote by: barts View Post
    I agree that some may prefer a President who favors the wealthy at the expense of everyone else and is not opposed to murder and torture in order to preserve and enhance the wealth of the "1%".

    As Romney's lies are exposed, I or others may post others versions of What is Romney Hiding?

    I encourage you to use this forum to expose Obama's record.
    Murder and torture? I hope you're having as much fun writing this as I am reading it. LOL. Okay now prove your murder/torture charge.

    Thanks for the encouragement, "I will".

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    Quote Quote by: Trojan_Ripper View Post
    But you have seen or been presented the same pattern of lies, deceit, and cover-ups with Obama. Because you won't address them doesn't make them go away.
    Here's the problem. Almost, but not all, the popular claims we hear about Obama come from that Great Right Wing Lying Machine of which people like Rush Limbaugh, Michele Bachmann, and Anne Coulter belong. Books have been written about some of these people's lies. As well, those who rail against Obama almost always turn out to be kooks and wackos, like the gang who ran the Birther nonsense.

    And then you have Fox News, excuse the oxymoron.

    Does Obama lie and distort? Of course. But nothing like the scale on which Romney abandons the truth and engages in lies and deceit. The man has no choice because he's the presumptive nominee for a party that trades in little but lies.

    When responsible journalists or commentators come forward with reports about Obama's lies, deceits, and cover-ups as, say, Glenn Greenwald did recently in Salon with Obama the Pioneer, which concerns Obama's extra-judicial murders of US citizens they can be discussed.

    So to summarize the Obama campaign’s apparent argument: it’s absolutely vital that we know all about the GOP nominee’s tax shelters and financial transactions over the last decade (and indeed, we should know about that), but we need not bother ourselves with how the Democratic nominee is deciding which Americans should die, his claimed legal authority for ordering those hits, the alleged evidence for believing the target deserves to be executed, or the criteria used to target them. So low are one’s expectations for an American Election Year that there are very few spectacles so absurd as to be painful to behold, but the Obama campaign’s waving of the transparency flag definitely qualifies.
    Indeed, Obama's only responsible critics, I suggest, are on the left.

    Here's my suggestion to what I think is your problem. If you want to raise concerns about Obama's pattern of "lies, deceit, and cover-ups", canvas the left wing press, such places as Alternet.org, Truthdig, and Truthout. That's where responsible journalists, in fact real journalists, are scrutinizing Obama's record.

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    Quote Quote by: truthreality View Post
    Well, yes. You made the claim that Obama spent 1.4 million of tax payers money on hiding his records. Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?
    I think Trojan_Ripper wants to, as Rush Limbaugh says, "illustrate absurdity with the absurd." $1.4 million is a made up number. Unfortunately the attempt at clever satire fails because it's easy to track $1.4 million of tax payers money in publicly available documents. Rmoney's tax returns are still hidden from public view, forever apparently.

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    Quote Quote by: The Decider View Post
    I think Trojan_Ripper wants to, as Rush Limbaugh says, "illustrate absurdity with the absurd." $1.4 million is a made up number. Unfortunately the attempt at clever satire fails because it's easy to track $1.4 million of tax payers money in publicly available documents. Rmoney's tax returns are still hidden from public view, forever apparently.
    Well I can’t say it’s true, and I can’t reveal who told me, but it must be true because some investor I refuse to identify told me so. Hows that for satire? LOL

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