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    Soccer science.

    It is no secret today's top teams make thier way by playing on the counter attack, but why has it come to this?

    Basically the best way to see what is the best formula for your team is to analyse the game. I like in my simulators to play with the team way forward, basically having two defenders on the half way line, or just behind, with the fullbacks over the half way line. This pushes the whole team forwards, and, with them so far forwards, they put pressue onto the other team. I have no idea what will happen in real life, but this is my fantasy 'style'.

    Now, what is perfect tactics? A lot of you would argue that the four four two is perfect as it has balance, but I find my pressure cooker to be more effective. Maybe with the two defenders playing without an off side trap as sweepers would be the best bet? This would clog the goal mouth up so that they can parry the attackers, who won't even come forwards in numbers as they fear the counter themselves!

    So, to get the ratios perfect would require all the players in a row for a perfect defense, all in the middle for a perfect midfield, or all up front to promote a perfect attack. This means that the four four two has stats of defense coming to fourty percent, midfield at fourty percent strength, and attack at twnety percent strength. But hold on! All the midfielders could drop back or push forwards to help the attack, so it is a flexible eighty percent defense, eighty percent midfield and sixty percent attack, roughly. If ye to push more people into midfield the midfield stat would go up, the defense stat would stay the same, and the attack stat would go up or stay the same depending on where you pull your midfielders on for whom andwhere.

    For this reason I believe the four four two syatem is the best, scientifically.

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    Basically the best way to see what is the best formula for your team is to analyse the game. I like in my simulators to play with the team way forward, basically having two defenders on the half way line, or just behind, with the fullbacks over the half way line. This pushes the whole team forwards, and, with them so far forwards, they put pressue onto the other team. I have no idea what will happen in real life, but this is my fantasy 'style'.
    The problem with the pressing game and having the defense so far forward is the option of the opposition to counter, a speedy striker would undo that with a route one ball.

    4-4-2 is a system is what most people are used to, I prefer a 4-3-3 with 2 wingers who fall back into midfield to make a 4-5-1 when the opposition have the ball. Makes it much more difficult for the opposition to play through you and gives you attacking options when you have the ball. With your formation you are wasting the full backs, they should be there to overlap on the wing and get balls into the box.

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    While not knowing much about soccer, I do know a bit about ice hockey. The flaw I see in your plan Charlatan is one system isn't going to work on all accounts. You have to tailor your style of play to your opponents strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes defense wins games, sometimes it's the offense.

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    Yay, more arm chair athletes!

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    Have to be dude, fucked my knees up. :(

    What do you think of the diamond 4 formation in midfield?

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    Quote Quote by: Dodds View Post
    Have to be dude, fucked my knees up. :(

    What do you think of the diamond 4 formation in midfield?
    It makes the defense less pressured, with an anchor, and the strikers get more support. The problem is that the attacking midfielder fights to people to get the balls through. It is far more defensive than a typical formation.

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    For me it narrows the midfield far too much and the side becomes reliant on the full backs to create width.

    I have no problem with a holding midfielder, in a 4-4-2 you have a holding midfielder mostly. But your point is well made.

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    actually what i prefer is a 5 4 1 formation, with the wing backs going into midfield when attacking, making it a 3 6 1 formation, and when in the final third, two midfileders come up making it a 3 4 3 formation!

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    You need a really good striker to pull that one off. But interesting idea.

    What did you think of Spains blatant rip off of Scotlands tactics with the 4-6-0 formation?

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    Quote Quote by: Dodds View Post
    You need a really good striker to pull that one off. But interesting idea.

    What did you think of Spains blatant rip off of Scotlands tactics with the 4-6-0 formation?
    were all thier strikers injured or banned?

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    Not at all Chars. What Spain did was flood the midfield and that drew defenders out of position, then a midfielder would assume the strikers role and make a run in behind when space opened up.

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    that is a good plan dodds. it worked too! i didn;t watch.

    what do you think of balotelli? i think he sux!

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