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Old Apr 16, 2006, 08:02 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Cheerleaders told to cover up

Cheerleaders were told to cover up by the end of the year. The new law was effected out of fears that teenager fans will go on diets so that they can look sexy like the cheerleaders they see on TV.

According to FOX sports news.

Find out what society would make such a new law by checking out the link.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5508246

The Cheerleaders are portesting the new rules.

Seems one society is different then ours here in the USA?

This is odd, forcing sexy girls to cover up to protect chubby teenagers from attempting to loose weight. I could hardly believe my eyes. Not sure what the male fans or the football teams think about the new regulation.

Should the rights of some be taken away to protect others or not, relative to this case.
Are diets in fact really dangerous and should society conduct a "war on diets" to save our youth from getting too skinny and unhealthy?
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Old Apr 16, 2006, 08:15 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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This is odd, forcing sexy girls to cover up to protect chubby teenagers from attempting to loose weight. I could hardly believe my eyes. Not sure what the male fans or the football teams think about the new regulation.
If it bothers them, the male fans should get a life. They might perhaps watch the GAME instead of mentally masturbating to the women.
And some teenage girls ARE a little chubby, and I have seen more than my share of them grow up to be drop dead gorgeous women. But although this seems a minor problem they can deal with it as they see fit.
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Should the rights of some be taken away to protect others or not, relative to this case.
Are diets in fact really dangerous and should society conduct a "war on diets" to save our youth from getting too skinny and unhealthy?
Rights? These women are EMPLOYEES and they will wear whatever uniform their employers want them to. And a "war on diets" would be unworkable and unenforceable, like the war on drugs. Like I said, a minor issue, unless you're an Aussie sports fan who likes to drool over women they have no chance of getting within 50 feet of.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Apr 16, 2006, 10:22 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Should the rights of some be taken away to protect others or not, relative to this case.
Are diets in fact really dangerous and should society conduct a "war on diets" to save our youth from getting too skinny and unhealthy?
Rights? These women are EMPLOYEES and they will wear whatever uniform their employers want them to. And a "war on diets" would be unworkable and unenforceable, like the war on drugs. Like I said, a minor issue, unless you're an Aussie sports fan who likes to drool over women they have no chance of getting within 50 feet of.
There are already places regulating what people can consume to keep weight down (take CA schools for example), and if this passes it means that others are fightin people dieting to keep thier weight down. So wtf do they want, why do they even fuckin bother? Just leave people to eat and look as they wish.

This is how i see these laws in 20 yrs

1. To stop obeisity everone must eat food that is deemed healthy in order to lose weight.
2. Being unhealthy is illegal
3. If you are healthy you cannot be viewed in public because that urges others to be healthy.
4. Being healthy is illegal
5. If you are too healthy you must become less healthy so others wont have high expectations of themselves. (as a result you have to get less healthy and have to lose fat, refer to #1)
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Old Apr 16, 2006, 10:48 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I halfway agree. The laws will be skewed in favor of the healthy because the insurance lobby will WANT it that way.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Apr 16, 2006, 11:16 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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If it bothers them, the male fans should get a life.
Dude, i saw some at Wal-Mart for 5 bucks. (Lives that is) But seriously Scrib, not all males are just going to find another life. I mean it would take some pretty good consuling to get these addicts off of sexy women so really this statement might not fully explain how to counter the propensity these men might have.


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They might perhaps watch the GAME instead of mentally masturbating to the women.
Come on Scribbler, this has stereotype written all over it. First of all, to even see these women you have to check them out online and really they are shown less than half of the game, perhaps a little more. If men did not watch the game, how come so many countless hours are wasted by men in bars everywhere swapping stories about last night's Baltimore Ravens game? Also, ESPN would be out of the job, because it is not their job to bring the women to the men, but the game. If guys don't watch the game like you claim, then MVP voting, highlight material on ESPN, bar discussions about the last game, and many other things that happen would not exist.

Besides, men also watch the games for the beer commercials

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Like I said, a minor issue, unless you're an Aussie sports fan who likes to drool over women they have no chance of getting within 50 feet of.
I don't see anything minor about this issue at all. I mean if the Assie's bring this standard to sports what happens? Your drooling men to which you refer don't watch the games, attendence goes down. Even if that does not happen, cheerleaders no longer become important because who really watches them anymore now that they are covered? New gimics have to be brought in to replace once sexy entertainment. New gigs cost money and in order to get that money someone has to get the boot. Restructuring of sports organizations can come if this standard becomes prominent in other Continents and that my friend, for all those sports fans out there, is not just some minor issue.


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Old Apr 17, 2006, 12:16 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Cheerleaders were told to cover up by the end of the year. The new law was effected out of fears that teenager fans will go on diets so that they can look sexy like the cheerleaders they see on TV.

According to FOX sports news.

Find out what society would make such a new law by checking out the link.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5508246

The Cheerleaders are portesting the new rules.

Seems one society is different then ours here in the USA?

This is odd, forcing sexy girls to cover up to protect chubby teenagers from attempting to loose weight. I could hardly believe my eyes. Not sure what the male fans or the football teams think about the new regulation.

Should the rights of some be taken away to protect others or not, relative to this case.
Are diets in fact really dangerous and should society conduct a "war on diets" to save our youth from getting too skinny and unhealthy?
What makes this all the more ridiculous is that it's happening in Australia. The majority of people live right next to the fuckin beach and go down there often enough, and the women wear even less there. They'll have to pass a law demand all women (and men, come on we feel body image pressure too) have to wear burkhas just in case some kid, god forbid, gets a healthy body image.


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Old Apr 17, 2006, 02:37 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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This law, as most modern laws, is senseless, un-necessary and distracting away from the facts.


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Old Apr 17, 2006, 02:49 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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"This law, as most modern laws, is senseless, un-necessary and distracting away from the facts."

I agree...it's like the only useful/sensible laws have already been creating yet the prying wheels of bureaucracy can't stop turning.

As for this specific law, ridiculous, totally ridiculous. This kind of ridiculous law making is what leads to totalitarian empires. Don't show sexy girls in skimpy outfits on tv because it might make some chubby girls become anorexic? It sounds like a joke, literally. I can't believe this is a real law. What's next, girls in public cannot expose their midriffs? No legs shown? Before you know it we are back in the victorian era where a show of ankle is considered taboo.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 08:44 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Cheerleaders were told to cover up by the end of the year. The new law was effected out of fears that teenager fans will go on diets so that they can look sexy like the cheerleaders they see on TV.

According to FOX sports news.

Find out what society would make such a new law by checking out the link.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5508246

The Cheerleaders are portesting the new rules.

Seems one society is different then ours here in the USA?

This is odd, forcing sexy girls to cover up to protect chubby teenagers from attempting to loose weight. I could hardly believe my eyes. Not sure what the male fans or the football teams think about the new regulation.

Should the rights of some be taken away to protect others or not, relative to this case.
Are diets in fact really dangerous and should society conduct a "war on diets" to save our youth from getting too skinny and unhealthy?
What makes this all the more ridiculous is that it's happening in Australia. The majority of people live right next to the fuckin beach and go down there often enough, and the women wear even less there. They'll have to pass a law demand all women (and men, come on we feel body image pressure too) have to wear burkhas just in case some kid, god forbid, gets a healthy body image.
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If it bothers them, the male fans should get a life.
Dude, i saw some at Wal-Mart for 5 bucks. (Lives that is) But seriously Scrib, not all males are just going to find another life. I mean it would take some pretty good consuling to get these addicts off of sexy women so really this statement might not fully explain how to counter the propensity these men might have.


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They might perhaps watch the GAME instead of mentally masturbating to the women.
Come on Scribbler, this has stereotype written all over it. First of all, to even see these women you have to check them out online and really they are shown less than half of the game, perhaps a little more. If men did not watch the game, how come so many countless hours are wasted by men in bars everywhere swapping stories about last night's Baltimore Ravens game? Also, ESPN would be out of the job, because it is not their job to bring the women to the men, but the game. If guys don't watch the game like you claim, then MVP voting, highlight material on ESPN, bar discussions about the last game, and many other things that happen would not exist.

Besides, men also watch the games for the beer commercials

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Like I said, a minor issue, unless you're an Aussie sports fan who likes to drool over women they have no chance of getting within 50 feet of.
I don't see anything minor about this issue at all. I mean if the Assie's bring this standard to sports what happens? Your drooling men to which you refer don't watch the games, attendence goes down. Even if that does not happen, cheerleaders no longer become important because who really watches them anymore now that they are covered? New gimics have to be brought in to replace once sexy entertainment. New gigs cost money and in order to get that money someone has to get the boot. Restructuring of sports organizations can come if this standard becomes prominent in other Continents and that my friend, for all those sports fans out there, is not just some minor issue.

The girls could dress up in outfits so they look like one of the odd animals they got down under, and hop around the sidelines. Or they could hire half chubby girls so that everyone could have a role model to fit their own size. Some of the chubby girls might be real "turn ons" and after a few beers, who cares anyway.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 08:56 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Anyway the young teen guys should get turned on by those action hero football stars and not those barbie dolls. They should concentrate on the violence of the game and not get all distracted by belly dancers. We don't need anymore girly girl guys hanging out with us men when we have our night out with the boys - gee, we got our rights.
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Perhaps everyone who appears on any tv ad, program or movie, should be forced to dress like an androgenous(no gay, or hetero tensions), gray(no racial tensions), hairless(no follicle insecurities), skin suits, that make everyone appear generic and totally POLITCALLY CORRECT?

or

Perhaps we should just march on Washington and remove all these corrupt assholes at gunpoint?

:rolleyes:

I didn't know the Aussies had as many politcal bungholes as the U.S.? :confused:


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Old Apr 17, 2006, 12:00 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Talk about taking away a head rush. I don't mean the viewers, I mean the cheerleaders.

When a cheerleader gets up and she moves in rhythm with the music, timed just right for that bump and grind. The cheers and whistles from the viewers gives the cheerleader a rush. It is this rush that is being taken away from her.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 02:17 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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If it bothers them, the male fans should get a life. They might perhaps watch the GAME instead of mentally masturbating to the women.
And some teenage girls ARE a little chubby, and I have seen more than my share of them grow up to be drop dead gorgeous women. But although this seems a minor problem they can deal with it as they see fit.
Rights? These women are EMPLOYEES and they will wear whatever uniform their employers want them to. And a "war on diets" would be unworkable and unenforceable, like the war on drugs. Like I said, a minor issue, unless you're an Aussie sports fan who likes to drool over women they have no chance of getting within 50 feet of.
I wonder how many of these men would want their mothers or their daughters or their wives dressing essentially like sluts for the whole world to see.

I don't agree with legislating such things but, at the same time, I don't think it's appropriate to be feeding the lustful appetites of teen boys and older males (they can go find their own means of feeding those appetites). As for this nonsense of trying to protect the self-image of little chubby girls or of trying to keep them from striving to have those cheerleader bodies, it's just that: nonsense!


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I wonder how many of these men would want their mothers or their daughters or their wives dressing essentially like sluts for the whole world to see.
To consider a ladies liberated dress sense as a sign of being "slut" is most judgemental and very offensive to all women. The word slut is also very degrading.
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Perhaps everyone who appears on any tv ad, program or movie, should be forced to dress like an androgenous(no gay, or hetero tensions), gray(no racial tensions), hairless(no follicle insecurities), skin suits, that make everyone appear generic and totally POLITCALLY CORRECT?

or

Perhaps we should just march on Washington and remove all these corrupt assholes at gunpoint?

:rolleyes:

I didn't know the Aussies had as many politcal bungholes as the U.S.? :confused:
The PM John Howard. Not as far up the corruption scale as Berlusconi, but up there with Bush Jr in the bumbling fuckface charts. One of their previous PM's was elected on his beer drinking ability. Makes Arnold look like an exceptional choice.


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Old Apr 18, 2006, 12:46 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Talk about taking away a head rush. I don't mean the viewers, I mean the cheerleaders.

When a cheerleader gets up and she moves in rhythm with the music, timed just right for that bump and grind. The cheers and whistles from the viewers gives the cheerleader a rush. It is this rush that is being taken away from her.
That is right, their " RUSH RIGHTS " are being violated by that new law. They should protest by mooning the lawmakers. Hmm. cheering the Cheerleaders who are cheering the team. But will the team feel as cheered if they wear their long johns to work?

Part of the unspoken mythology of football-ism is that the winning superstars get the maids, just like the knights who slay a dragon. The fans can imagine the fantasy, gee, look at the babes those football jocks get if they win this game. The whole game centers around that kind of fantasy daydreamingl. Along with the fantasy that those hot dogs taste better then normal.

Yet the diet thing surprised me the most - laws to prevent slimming down, where as in America we are making laws to prevent fattening up. Someone has got it up-side-down, or bottoms up... depending. At first I thought it was a morality law not to show too much flesh, but no, it had to do with preventing diets. Wonder what Oprah would think about that?

Perhaps the hot dog venders have a good lobby group over there? If you know what I mean.
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And just how does a bunch of gorgeous young women mooning a load of old men constitute a PROTEST?


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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And just how does a bunch of gorgeous young women mooning a load of old men constitute a PROTEST?
hey, no arguements here.


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And just how does a bunch of gorgeous young women mooning a load of old men constitute a PROTEST?
First you get media attention by doing something radical (mooning) and then hold up sign that reads

"No Butts about it, we got our rights".

It people cheer, you get a rush, if you get a Big Rush, then you can be a talk show hoast.

Give me my diet or give me death, then do a loud burp.

The reason for protesting in such a rude manner is because the real message is for the football fans, and you got to speak their kind of Lingo - simple, basic, almost a "grunt". So the football fans will join the protest movement, the power of large numbers.

(but truth be known - i would think of someway to debate any darn thing}.
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To consider a ladies liberated dress sense as a sign of being "slut" is most judgemental and very offensive to all women. The word slut is also very degrading.
I don't consider the way cheerleaders dress to be "liberated." I chose the word "slut" intentionally and, obviously, you understood exactly what I meant by it. If someone wants to feel insulted because I think the way they dress resembles that of a slut, that's up to them. However, it is really stupid for you to claim that it is "very offensive to all women." Have you asked ALL women if they're insulted by the term "slut"?

Now, whether you can tell the difference between my saying your claim was stupid and someone saying you are stupid, I'll wait and see.

As I said earlier: "I don't agree with legislating such things but, at the same time, I don't think it's appropriate to be feeding the lustful appetites of teen boys and older males (they can go find their own means of feeding those appetites). As for this nonsense of trying to protect the self-image of little chubby girls or of trying to keep them from striving to have those cheerleader bodies, it's just that: nonsense!"


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