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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 7 | homosexual adoption there's no reason not to allow gays to adopt. studies show that children from homosexual parents are just as well adjusted as those from heterosexual parents. I posted the following in another thread: Quote:
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| wheretheslimelives Posts: 119 | honestly, jerk, i'd say that's a noble cause. i'd also regretfully say that the reason most people have been and are against it but won't admit to is that they know those children will be chided and mistreated in school and/or other situations. adolescense is hard enough without any added flaws (whether said flaws are imagined or not). does a child deserve to carry that weight for no reason other than its circumstance? i'm not saying i's right. i'm saying its reality. at the same time, any family no matter what it's core components, is perfectly capable of rearing children. the question is - until our society is more tolerant - do we trade the mental wellbeing of an innocent for the politically correct rights of a couple who cannot breed? there was a time not so long ago that coming from a broken home was enough to classify a child as an outcast. and as i'm sure you're all aware, that's no longer the case. i'm sure the same will be true of this. in time. until then it is a sad dilemma because there is a large segment of people who will never *stop worrying about sexual preferences*. that will take a few more generations. my honest belief is that a gay couple who often wait years for a child they desperately desire are often better parents than heteros. the problem is, that it doesn't change the opinion of the general population. and judging by the way they shot down gay marriage i'd say their opinion is pretty clear. why don't i tapdance on your soul |
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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 7 | Quote:
also, the greater the pool of applicants to adopt, the more children can be adopted into good homes. | |
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| It's simply logical Location: San Diego Posts: 4,333 | . Quote:
This matches with a report on NPR about a poll done by (Q, Cue, Kew?) Research, in which it was determined that anti-gay sentiments were dramatically lower among people who actually know some gay people. . I don't suffer from insanity... I thoroughly enjoy it | |
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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 3 | I dont actually see a problem with homosexuals adopted. Well not at least until studies show the children are being affected. Homosexual adoption seem to me that may cause a little unbalance within child. Especially when he or she is at the age to attend school. What will the child think when others are talking about their mother and father and he or she only has two of the same? Will the child feel that he or she may not fit in? |
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| wheretheslimelives Posts: 119 | Quote:
thank you for the link, sonart. i'll share it with a girlfriend of mine who is also looking to adopt with her partner. she shares my fears, and i believe it will do her some good. :) why don't i tapdance on your soul | |
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| ???? Location: Novi. Michigan Posts: 2,163 | Quote:
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,999 | Oh foo, I thought this was a thread about adopting homosexuals. Well, if anyone's interested, I can be had...I mean I'm available...Oh, forget it. :confused: The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) |
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![]() Marksman Location: "A place that cannot be found except by those who already know where it is." Posts: 199 | In spite of the research posted, I believe that a homosexual couple cannot provide a child a proper upbringing in terms of the benefits that only a heterosexual couple can offer. Having two "Moms" or two "Dads" deprives the child of the assets the other sex can provide. Argueably, having a mother and father balances the rearing of a child who needs both the maternal instincts / feelings of the mother and the protective behavior of the father. Apparently, the state of Arkansas agrees with me: http://www.narth.com/docs/RationaleBasisFinal0405.pdf Some exerts for those who will be too lazy to read my evidence: "The inherent nature and structure of households with a homosexually-behaving adult uniquely endangers foster children by exposing them to a substantial level of harmful stresses that are over and above usual stress levels in heterosexual foster homes." "The inherent structure of foster-parent households with one or more homosexually-behaving members deprives foster children of vitally needed positive contributions to child adjustment that are only present in licensed heterosexual foster homes." "Homosexual partner relationships are significantly and substantially less stable and more short-lived on the average compared to a marriage of a man and a woman, thereby inevitably contributing to a substantially higher rate of household transitions in foster homes with a homosexually-behaving adult." Homosexuality is a deviation in the natural order of things (most people are "straight" not "gay"). Such a deviation should not be allowed to follow through to the raising of a child. I am not a parent so my qualification and bias on this topic is questionable. However, I would hope that there are some heterosexual partners out there who could relate and support my observation. "Rage, rage against the dying of the light." -Dylan Thomas |
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![]() Marksman Location: "A place that cannot be found except by those who already know where it is." Posts: 199 | Quote:
"Rage, rage against the dying of the light." -Dylan Thomas | |
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| BANNED Posts: 2,630 | I don't think weasel meant wealth as his richer upbringing, I think it's the exposure to bluecollar comics, parenting skills of Britney Spears, and stable marriages of Eminem, and Nascar race watching that really helps raise well adjusted children, and they'd never get that from their queer parents. |
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![]() Marksman Location: "A place that cannot be found except by those who already know where it is." Posts: 199 | Quote:
http://www.narth.com/docs/RationaleBasisFinal0405.pdf "Homosexually-behaving adults inherently suffer significantly and substantially higher rates of partner relationship breakups, psychological disorder, suicidal ideation, suicidal attempt, completed suicide, conduct disorder, and substance abuse; therefore, as a group, households with a resident homosexually-behaving adult are substantially less capable of providing the best psychologically stable and secure home environments needed by foster children. This greater instability would inevitably necessitate more frequent foster child removal for transition to an alternate foster placement. Further, this relationship instability in households with a homosexually-behaving male also would contribute to a potentially higher risk of removal due to the sexual abuse of an adolescent male foster child by that homosexual. Foster children have already suffered one or more traumatic transitions, and more frequent transitions result in greater psychological harm and psychosocial maladjustment. The Adoption Assistance and Child Welfare Act of 1980 Public Law 92-272 shifted the focus of the foster care system to minimizing child removal rates, and Public Law 105-89 requires practices to enhance safety of the foster child. It is in the best interests of foster children to be placed in foster homes that include only married or single heterosexual adults because they are substantially more stable and safe, eliminating the unique risk of higher rates of child removal inherent to households with a homosexual adult." Had you read this link when I posted it earlier, I would not need to go out of my way to explain this to you. This isn't about the "denying the rights of gay people." This about the well-being of children who would be in better hands with a heterosexual couple. "Rage, rage against the dying of the light." -Dylan Thomas | |
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| BANNED Posts: 2,630 | Seems heterosexuals just aren't stepping up to the plate, otherwise hundred of thousand adoptable children wouldn't be languishing in foster care homes, which are a nightmare, my friend was in 35 foster homes before he was 8 years old, and BOTH he and his mentally handicapped sister were sexually and physically abused in more than one of those homes.so straights.............put up or shut up! btw. some gay couples are adopting mixed racial, and children born with HIV or born addicted to narcotics/alcohol that no one else is offering a G*D DAMN HOME! ![]() |
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![]() Marksman Location: "A place that cannot be found except by those who already know where it is." Posts: 199 | Quote:
At the risk of repeating myself, I believe that homosexual couples are INCAPABLE of providing a proper environment necessary for the successful upbringing of a child. I am not saying that gays are less compasionate than ordinary people and their willingness to adopt is admirable. However, people are selfishly thinking about their own desire for a child and not what is best for him / her. One would think that first rule of parenting would be to put the child, not oneself, first. "Rage, rage against the dying of the light." -Dylan Thomas | |
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| Digital Witchcraft Posts: 3,020 | Quote:
Here.. I'll help you.. Quote:
vanished =O Edit by rcne, I see nothing but a valid debate of the issues. When you interject homophobia into the mix rather than considering the views posted here - it detracts rather than adds to the debate. Last edited by rcne; Apr 7, 2006 at 10:15 pm. | ||
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| BANNED Posts: 2,630 | Quote:
btw. with donar sperm,and women willing to carry chidren for gay men, your adoption ban won't stop many gays/lesbians from parenting IF THEY CHOSE! BUT IF YOU ARE SUCESSFUL IN THESE HATEFUL DIVISIVE CAMPAIGN TRICKS of winning another election vilifying queers, at least F*CKIN step up, and adopt the kids in foster homes. Last edited by underbear1; Apr 6, 2006 at 11:14 pm. | ||
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