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Old Mar 28, 2006, 08:54 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Lesbian couple found guilty of boy's murder

A four-year-old boy died after he was brutally assaulted when he refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy", The Star newspaper reported on Thursday

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx...ews__national/

Is this another example of the appropriateness of parenting for homosexual couples? And before you bring up how many kids are killed each year by hetro couples, please focus on the reason the child was killed, not the fact that he was.


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Old Mar 28, 2006, 09:02 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Look! It's a homophobic crusador!! RUUN!!! O.O
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Old Mar 28, 2006, 09:53 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Father "killed toddler over gay fears", court hears

Is this another example of the appropriateness of parenting by homophobic fathers? And before you bring up how many kids are killed each year by hmosexual couples, please focus on the reason the child was killed, not the fact that he was.

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Old Mar 28, 2006, 10:36 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Look! It's a homophobic crusador!! RUUN!!! O.O
Do you understand what homophobic means?


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Old Mar 28, 2006, 11:48 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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So we agree that people killing people is either "evil" or requires a very good reason/cause.
We agree that adults killing children is cowardly and should be punished to the full extent of the law.
I think that's as far as it goes.
Do I think that murder committed by gay/straight/religious/atheistic/Polish/Jewish/hermaphrodites says anything about any larger group of which they are members? I do not.
Murderers do not think like we do. Strictly speaking, no one who kills another for any reason besides self-defense or in defense of the life of another is a little sociopathic. They are not reasonable or appropriate representatives for any group that includes them aside from the group of murderers like them.
To murder another human being makes anything else you may be or have made of yourself insignificant, not worth considering.
Murderers are anomalies.


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Old Mar 28, 2006, 11:57 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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It's all about the RIGHTS of the victim, not the "religion, sexual prefrence, sobriety, ideology or belief" of the accused.

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Old Mar 29, 2006, 12:02 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Do you understand what homophobic means?
Yep... it means people so terrified of gays that when some manage to commit the same crimes committed all too often by heterosexuals, they have to make a big deal out of it in order to paint homosexuals as an altogether different, SPECIAL threat to unsuspecting Americans who don't see the SPECIAL danger in allowing them to live normal lives among us.


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Old Mar 29, 2006, 12:14 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Not to mention the fact that stories like that help sell newspapers, increase viewers of TV talk shows as well as viewers of Web pages. Sensational sells. A headline that just said, "The parents of ....... have been arrested and accused of causing the child's death" isn't sexy enough to catch the public's attention.


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Old Mar 29, 2006, 12:20 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Hence the ruining of our media, by basing it on SALES revenue for income to investigate news.

The free market works for everything, except a free media.

People only become informed by media, therefore they cannot spot bad media if all that exists is bad media.

If it weren't for the internet, I fear the blinders ALL nations would be wearing right now with this level of television, satellite and 24 hour news.


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Old Mar 29, 2006, 01:12 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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What the hell? This happened in South Africa, for God's sake. This is not international news. Are you even pretending an isolated event in South Africa has implications for gay parenting in general? If so, I have to join in the accusation of homophobia.

Stupid, crazy dykes giving the whole population a bad name ....


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Old Mar 29, 2006, 10:33 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Do you understand what homophobic means?
Mhm... ^^ Why?
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Old Mar 29, 2006, 02:36 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Mhm... ^^ Why?
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Old Mar 29, 2006, 03:22 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Old Mar 29, 2006, 04:07 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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A four-year-old boy died after he was brutally assaulted when he refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy", The Star newspaper reported on Thursday

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx...ews__national/

Is this another example of the appropriateness of parenting for homosexual couples? And before you bring up how many kids are killed each year by hetro couples, please focus on the reason the child was killed, not the fact that he was.
It doesn't matter why the kid was killed, it only matters that the kid was killed.

It appears the kid knew that his mother's lover was not a man better than his mother did and that he rightly stuck to his guns about what he knew to be true.


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Old Mar 29, 2006, 04:21 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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It doesn't matter why the kid was killed, it only matters that the kid was killed.

It appears the kid knew that his mother's lover was not a man better than his mother did and that he rightly stuck to his guns about what he knew to be true.
But the question people are trying to get you to answer is this:

How is it that the sexuality of this murderer should be seen as a reason to deny others of the same sexuality rights? A deviance based on something other than sexual orientation is the cause of the murder, not orientation. Not all Lesbians are compelled to kill children who do not call them "Daddy". Not a majority of them are, nor a significant minority. It is, simply, a statistical aberation. It would be the same as a step-father killing a child for not calling him Daddy. The sexual orientation is not the cause of the crime. It is mearly an incidental fact. Does that explain what people are tring to get you to understand?


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Old Mar 29, 2006, 04:35 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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But the question people are trying to get you to answer is this:

How is it that the sexuality of this murderer should be seen as a reason to deny others of the same sexuality rights? A deviance based on something other than sexual orientation is the cause of the murder, not orientation. Not all Lesbians are compelled to kill children who do not call them "Daddy". Not a majority of them are, nor a significant minority. It is, simply, a statistical aberation. It would be the same as a step-father killing a child for not calling him Daddy. The sexual orientation is not the cause of the crime. It is mearly an incidental fact. Does that explain what people are tring to get you to understand?
First of all, I don't know of any lesbian couples (and I do actually know some lesbian couples) who insist on one of them being addressed in the masculine. It seems that's something more along the lines of gender identity disorder (something at least somewhat separate from sexual orientation).

As I said, though, it really doesn't matter why the child was killed; it only matters that the child was killed.

However, it is NOT the same as a step-father killing a child for not calling HIM "daddy" because "daddy" is an appropriate title for the man married to the child's mother: it is not (and will never be) an appropriate title for the WOMAN shacking up with the child's mother. What makes it worse than a man killing his step-child for not calling him "daddy" is that the child's mother committed this heinous act because she was trying to force her child to do something that is simply contrary to nature (referring to a woman as if she was a man).


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Old Mar 29, 2006, 04:46 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Again, I will point out, the aberation is not caused by the orientation or gender identity, the orientation or identity is incidental fact. Deal with that question. You are suggesting that it is unsafe to allow ANY lesbian parental or adoption rights becasue of the aberant actions of this one lesbian. How is that a logical stance? How is it any more logical than denying all heterosexual men access to children because one is stupid enough to kill his child because it "might be gay" or all heterosexual men the right to marry women who already have children because one might be stupid enough to try and force someone with "the good sense to know he already has a Daddy" to call him Daddy?


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Old Mar 29, 2006, 05:18 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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What the hell? This happened in South Africa, for God's sake.
you know, i hate to bring this up...but south africa also has a rampant problem with infant raping so as to avoid HIV (which is absolutely preposterous considering that most women have it BEFORE child birth...all i'm saying is consider the source folks.
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Three gays were discussing what they thought their favourite sport would be.
The first guy sighs, "American Football, because of all those gorgeous guys bending over in their tight pants."
The second guy sighs, "Wrestling, because of those skimpy little costumes."
The third guy sighs, "Baseball, because I'd be pitching with the bases loaded."
"And..." asked the other two.
The third guy continues, "The batter would hit a ground ball right to me, I'd catch it, and I'd just stand there while the other guys rounded the bases. Meanwhile, the crowd would be going crazy, and screaming, 'Throw the ball, you cocksucker!'

And, that's what I like -- the recognition."


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Old Mar 29, 2006, 09:48 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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I thought it was telling they had to find a South African lesbian couple, who commited a murder of a child, you can look in EVERY G*D DAMN major city in America for a hetero parent killing their kids.
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