Lesbian couple found guilty of boy's murder

[Osborn F Enready]

Oh yes he does, and gays aren't in it.

Got your own Hitler?

[underbear1]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Oh yes he does, and gays aren't in it. Got your own Hitler?

Hitler killed a hundred thousand gays, as well as 6 million Jews, Jehovah Witnesses, Catholic priests, (usually on the trumped up gay charge), communists, mentally handicaped and physically deformed people.so one was ENOUGH.
never again!

[Chancellor]

Quote by: lsbskins1 Again, I will point out, the aberation is not caused by the orientation or gender identity, the orientation or identity is incidental fact. Deal with that question. You are suggesting that it is unsafe to allow ANY lesbian parental or adoption rights becasue of the aberant actions of this one lesbian. How is that a logical stance? How is it any more logical than denying all heterosexual men access to children because one is stupid enough to kill his child because it "might be gay" or all heterosexual men the right to marry women who already have children because one might be stupid enough to try and force someone with "the good sense to know he already has a Daddy" to call him Daddy?

I'm not suggesting anything regarding any other lesbians unless they have this sick, perverse need to be addressed in the masculine (and even then I only said that it is never appropriate for a woman to be addressed in the masculine). It is so typical of people like you (who, for the most part, tend to be liberals or leftists) to read more into what people say than what they've actually said. You look for things to be implied, inferred, suggested, etc. instead of just READING what people write or HEARING what people say.

[lsbskins1]

Quote by: Seeker_Of_Sins A four-year-old boy died after he was brutally assaulted when he refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy", The Star newspaper reported on Thursday http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx...ews__national/ Is this another example of the appropriateness of parenting for homosexual couples? And before you bring up how many kids are killed each year by hetro couples, please focus on the reason the child was killed, not the fact that he was.

Ok, so when you said "Is this another example of the appropriateness of parenting for homosexual couples", you were not making the general assertion that all homosexual couples were tainted, but only that one couple mentioned in the story and it was all in my mind, huh?

A clue for you...
When you post the assertion in the opening of the thread, when the freakin' thread topic is that we should use this as a reason to question that "appropriateness", it's kinda hard to back track and pretend that was not what you were saying, don't you think?

[Chancellor]

Quote by: lsbskins1 Ok, so when you said "Is this another example of the appropriateness of parenting for homosexual couples", you were not making the general assertion that all homosexual couples were tainted, but only that one couple mentioned in the story and it was all in my mind, huh? A clue for you... When you post the assertion in the opening of the thread, when the freakin' thread topic is that we should use this as a reason to question that "appropriateness", it's kinda hard to back track and pretend that was not what you were saying, don't you think?

Are you responding to the original poster or to me?

[lsbskins1]

Quote by: Chancellor Are you responding to the original poster or to me?

Both, really. You were supporting the contention of the original poster, and then implying that his intention was not what was plainly stated...

[Chancellor]

Quote by: lsbskins1 Both, really. You were supporting the contention of the original poster, and then implying that his intention was not what was plainly stated...

You might want to go back to school and learn how to read because there was NOTHING in what I posted that supported the contention, intention or whatever of the original poster. There is also NOTHING in what I posted that says I claimed the original poster's intention was not what was plainly stated.

I don't mind if people disagree with me; but I will have to insist that they disagree with what I actually said and not what they think I said.

[lsbskins1]

Quote by: Chancellor You might want to go back to school and learn how to read because there was NOTHING in what I posted that supported the contention, intention or whatever of the original poster. There is also NOTHING in what I posted that says I claimed the original poster's intention was not what was plainly stated. I don't mind if people disagree with me; but I will have to insist that they disagree with what I actually said and not what they think I said.

Maybe I did meld what you intended with what the thread poster intented. Forgive me if I did. If you understand that gays are not "evil" and that they, as "gays", cause no harm, I have no issue with you.

[Seeker_Of_Sins]

hehehe, I do love it. The simple truth is that any attack, perceived or otherwise, on the homosexual community is immediately attacked in return. I wonder why the homosexual community gets so worked up over any challenge? Are you all that unsure of yourselves that you cannot see past nonsense? Are you all so desperate for acceptance of your lifestyle that you are forced to respond to any criticism with attacks, name calling and threats?

Why do you all feel so vulnerable?

Lets face it, my criticism, or anyone elses for that matter, wont change your lifestyle choice. Or will it? Hell, people get criticised for wearing the wrong jeans, should criticism immediately make them go shopping?

If I had posted an article about a hetro couple murdering their child it would have drawn two reactions, one of disgust and one of disgust combined with acceptance. And yet I post an article about a homo couple murdering a child and immediately it starts a debate about the abnormality of the situation, and that homo people dont do this sort of thing generally and vague references to percentages of crime caused by hetros vs homos. The killing of a child has gone by almost unnoticed, the absurdity of a lesbo insisting that a child call a woman by a masculine name has gone by almost unnoticed and the core debate has been about the so called goodness of homos in general.

Get over it, homos, hetros, we are all the same when it comes to disgusting issues like this. We are all equally capable of the same henious thing. Focus a little, dont get distratced by the bollocks. If you are so easily baited, to the point that you ignore whats in front of your eyes, then you really should take a time out

[Rave7pt0]

What the hell are you talking about Seeker? You didn't post a story and say "wow, poor kid." You posted the story and brought up the homosexual issue yourself.

You've been made to look like an idiot -- the best thing you can do is simply acknowledge that and move on. Recasting what you posted as clever or tricky is just making you look even more like an idiot.

You're not an idiot, are you? Do the right thing.

[Seeker_Of_Sins]

Quote by: Rave7pt0 What the hell are you talking about Seeker? You didn't post a story and say "wow, poor kid." You posted the story and brought up the homosexual issue yourself. You've been made to look like an idiot -- the best thing you can do is simply acknowledge that and move on. Recasting what you posted as clever or tricky is just making you look even more like an idiot. You're not an idiot, are you? Do the right thing.

I think you also have missed the point rave. But if it makes you feel better to label me as an idiot because you have missed the point, please go right ahead.

There is an issue about homosexuals as parents that ought to be discussed. Whether we are ready to do so is another matter entirely. Whether we are even able to have a discussion about the fitness of homos to raise kids without resorting to defensive tactics and abuse is highly douptful.

My position on the matter is quite simple, I believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice. Therefore, I have to question the appropriateness of a sexual perversion as a chosen lifestyle choice being the right environment to raise a child. What will a child learn from this environment? I also have to question the hang ups that many homos appear to have when it comes to a persecusion complex. Children learn from their role models, is a giant chip on a shoulder a good role model? Is a persecusion complex an appropriate worldview for a child to be subjected too?

[Sonart]

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Quote by: Seeker_Of_Sins hehehe, I do love it. The simple truth is that any attack, perceived or otherwise, on the homosexual community is immediately attacked in return. I wonder why the homosexual community gets so worked up over any challenge?

Yeah, dontcha hate it. :rolleyes: Those awful homosexuals whine almost as loudly as Christians do about perceived "Christian Bashing".

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[Chancellor]

Quote by: lsbskins1 Maybe I did meld what you intended with what the thread poster intented. Forgive me if I did. If you understand that gays are not "evil" and that they, as "gays", cause no harm, I have no issue with you.

All humans are born evil but, no, it isn't having an unnatural attraction through no choice of their own that makes homosexuals evil (just being born human does that).

But back to the primary point I was making in my posts. It doesn't matter why the kid was killed; it only matters that the kid was killed. Now, let me elaborate on that point: the child is not somehow more dead because he was murdered by his mother in reaction to his sane and rational refusal to call her female lover "daddy" than a child who is dead as the result of a drive-by shooting or who is dead because of cancer or any other cause.

[Jack]

I believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice. Therefore, I have to question the appropriateness of a sexual perversion

While I believe based on personal experience that you're wrong on both counts, could you clarify for me the apparent inconsistency in your choice of terms? Do you think homosexuality is a "lifestyle choice" or a "perversion"? For extra credit, can you explain why you (no doubt) feel that heterosexuality is not just a lifestyle choice?

[Sonart]

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Quote by: Seeker_Of_Sins My position on the matter is quite simple, I believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice.

Then let me make a suggestion. Find a gay person and get to know them enough to converse. Put on a nice act, you know, like you don't actually think they're the scum of the earth. You can always go throw up later, but for the sake of empirical research, put on a pleasant front. :rolleyes:

Ask them if they're gay and if they chose to be gay.

After you receive the answer you don't want... that they didn't chose to be gay... thank them for their candor and find another gay in hopes of getting a better answer.

When the next one says the same thing, find another.

Repeat as necessary. If nothing else, you'll discover that gays are perfectly normal, pleasant, interesting, hard-working, law-abiding, decent citizens.... except for that one little thing.

Now ask everyone you already know when, exactly, they chose to be heterosexual. Me, for instance, I remember it like it was yesterday. Yep... I was 10, playing kickball in the schoolyard, and couldn't keep my eyes off of Patsy Killifer. Woof, whatta cutey! Then I looked around at all the other boys and thought, ewwwwww! I knew right then that if I ever found out there was such a thing as homosexuality, I prefered Patsy Killifer.

Sorry... I'm lying. I always liked girls. Never occurred to me for a second to do otherwise. Gays will tell you they always liked boys..

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[heiscomingsoon]

WHY! WHY! killing a four-years old .....WHY those people live with children? Children must not be close to those people because they are very dangerous; they are ready to do anything. However; a day will come where they will pay for their behavior. Homosexual people must not have the right to adopt children. If they kill their own child what about other children. However; I know God has something to DO...
WHY she wants the child to call her DADDY?
Because she does not know who she is...She is a WOMAN...always a WOMAN...NEVER a MAN.
May GOD change their MIND.

[Star2589]

Quote by: Seeker_Of_Sins Is this another example of the appropriateness of parenting for homosexual couples? And before you bring up how many kids are killed each year by hetro couples, please focus on the reason the child was killed, not the fact that he was.

no it is not; it is an isolated incident. it doesnt indicate anything for or against homosexual parenting anymore than it indicates anything for or against female parenting.

the reason the child was killed was because his parents were nut cases, not because they were homosexual.

[whoracle]

Quote by: heiscomingsoon Children must not be close to those people because they are very dangerous; they are ready to do anything. Homosexual people must not have the right to adopt children. If they kill their own child what about other children.

you're right...we're totally lucky that the gay community hasn't already started slaughtering children in masses. i bet they're just lying in wait to do exactly that. i bet they start with schools. what better place to have children already herded together? because that's so like *them*. if they were any more dangerous, i might put them a notch above bible thumpers...

[Seeker_Of_Sins]

Quote by: Isherwood While I believe based on personal experience that you're wrong on both counts, could you clarify for me the apparent inconsistency in your choice of terms? Do you think homosexuality is a "lifestyle choice" or a "perversion"? For extra credit, can you explain why you (no doubt) feel that heterosexuality is not just a lifestyle choice?

I think it is both because you cannot have one without the other. Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, that lifestyle choice comprises having sexual relations with members of the same sex, therefore it is also a perversion.

Hetrosexuality, on the other hand, cannot be considered a lifestyle choice as instinct rules our desire to breed and therefore to mate. Homosexuals practive hetrosexual activity every time they have sex.

Hope that helps clarify my position a little

[Star2589]

Quote by: seeker of sins Is this another example of the appropriateness of parenting for homosexual couples?

Quote by: seeker of sins And yet I post an article about a homo couple murdering a child and immediately it starts a debate about the abnormality of the situation, and that homo people dont do this sort of thing generally and vague references to percentages of crime caused by hetros vs homos.

what did you expect? you asked the question in the opening post.