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Old Nov 22, 2005, 07:47 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Sports teams names

Do you think that sports teams should have names like the redskins or the braves? why or why not
I believe they shouldnt because it is helping sterotypes about indians and if sports are part of are culture we shouldnt have a culture premoting sterotypes.


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 07:55 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Personally, I'd like to see the Washington Whiteys and the Atlanta Crackers. That's a t-shirt I'd wear. I already come as close to this as possible: I'm a Boston Celtics fan. Heh.


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 07:58 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Lol that would be great. What would the whiteys mascot be?


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:00 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Son of Belial, if he wants the job. Or Alfred E. Newman.

For the Crackers: Could you do better than John Rocker?


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:03 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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1) there is a difference between "Redskins" and "Braves". Redskins is derogatory. I have no clue why naming a team Braves, Chiefs, or any other respectful team is harmful.

2) Other races/groups besides Native Americans are harmed by stereotypes created by sports teams... Notre Dame being a good example. The "Fighting Irish" with a stereotypical logo of a little Irish guy with his fists up... implying that Irish people are a bunch of bar brawlers. Why is there no drive to change this name? Would it be acceptable to call a team the "Cheap Jews" or the "WOPish Italians"?

My point is that no matter what you say/do, people will be offended. Private companies should be allowed to name themselves anything they want. If you're native american and offended by Indian names of teams, don't buy any of their merchandise. The market will decide if such names are acceptable.


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:05 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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If you're native american and offended by Indian names of teams, don't buy any of their merchandise. The market will decide if such names are acceptable.
Not true people will support the team that is winning. So a boycott wont make much of a differance.


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:12 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I went to UC Santa Cruz; our mascot is the banana slug. Even if we were winning, nobody would support the team.


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:16 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Why the hell would I be the mascot for the "Whities?"











I hate sports.
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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:24 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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exactly. The chubby whiteys who hate sports.


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:36 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Are you trying to say White men can't jump?
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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:39 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Are you trying to say White men can't jump?
What if i am?


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:42 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Why the hell would I be the mascot for the "Whities?"











I hate sports.
Right; I was imagining you flipping off the camera, maybe snarling, for the baseball cap image. Just trying to create the antithesis of Go Team Go bullshit. Sorry, I won't bring you up again.


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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:44 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Sorry Stain, you missed the joke. I was trying to make it look like I was offended that you would put me in your list of White supremacists, but then was really just pissed because I don't like football. Get it?

Hahahahahhaa I am so clever.

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So anywaste, Walmas, if you can say White men can't jump, then I can say Black men can't enunciate. Werd dawg.
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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:52 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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The Socceroos - Australia's world cup team. I don't know why, but that name and team is my favorite in the world cup.

It would be great for the Socceroos to win - can you imagine the headlines, with the Brits succumbing to the Socerroos. Great huh.


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Old Nov 23, 2005, 01:58 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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yeah those names are so much better.


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Old Nov 23, 2005, 01:58 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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with the Brits succumbing to the Socerroos
They've already beaten England in the last couple of years. Not sure about Wales, Scotland & N.Ireland yet....

As for other 'sporting names', some of the rugby team names (both here in England and in the southern hemisphere) are quite entertaining. My local team, London Irish, are commonly referred to as the 'Exiles'. NZ have a team called Waikato Chiefs in reference to the area being a big centre of Maori culture.


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Old Nov 29, 2005, 02:44 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Ugh... I hate when people whine about the names of sports teams. I remember when there was a significant uprising against the Cleveland Indians and their mascot Chief Wahoo. People thought it was offensive and degrading... I say why? Every other street in the suburbs surrounding Cleveland is named after an indian tribe or chief. Is that offensive?
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Old Nov 29, 2005, 03:08 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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It's usually the Whites bitching.
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Old Nov 29, 2005, 03:43 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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I don't care, this country has way way to much Political correctness
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Old Nov 20, 2006, 07:07 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Do you think that sports teams should have names like the redskins or the braves? why or why not
I believe they shouldnt because it is helping sterotypes about indians and if sports are part of are culture we shouldnt have a culture premoting sterotypes.
Redskins definitely NO.
But names after actual tribes aren't that bad.
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