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Old Sep 16, 2003, 12:59 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3112536.stm

Here is an interesting article on a recent study. The responses and reasoning by some of the males are funny.

I personally feel that it indicates an approach to equality of the sexes. A point made was that men are doing well in roles normally seen as female.

What do you think?
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Old Sep 16, 2003, 01:08 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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What do I think? Society is finally progressing, and patriarchy is certainly rendered moot theoretically. Coo'.


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Old Sep 16, 2003, 01:31 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Most lads mature slower than lasses. I noticed this at GCSE (16 for none UK'rs), while all the lasses were hard revising and worrying, most of the lads couldn't care less. This was less the case at A-level (18), but still the lasses seemed under more pressure. I don't know if its different at Uni as I'm only about to start 2 weeks from now.


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Old Sep 17, 2003, 09:34 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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If females were smarter why do males lead most countries? Why are most of my uni lecturers male, why do most people struggle with female uni lecturers? From what i have seen males are much better at maths and science whereas females perform better with writing essays and things like that. But i didnt do a study on it, my info is from life experience.


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Old Sep 17, 2003, 09:59 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Being smart and being a leader do not necessarily go hand in hand. Look at Bush.lol


I do not know the statistics as far as uni lecturers. I had not heard of any problems regarding females, though.

I think now that females are encouraged to enter the science and math arena, they will do just as well. There are many male literary masters too. I do agree that the different genders do have their advantages.
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Old Sep 17, 2003, 10:19 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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The reasons men hold more top positions within our society is that we still have a male dominated society. If men hold positions they will then tend to allocate more positions to men, who then take the top job, who then repeat the cycle.

It may also be to do with male aggression. High testosterone mean men will go for top positions just to apease their ego's. Women are, generally, more compromising than men, and will settle for a slightly lower job because they realise, which most men never do, when they are content.


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Old Sep 17, 2003, 01:13 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Nature, wisely, uses the male of the spieces for it's experimentation. Therefore men are both smarter and dumber than women, stronger and weaker, more sane and less, taller and shorter, and so on. As a mean, men are not as intelligent as women simply because for every genius produced ten morons result due to the nature of random mutation. Therefore woman have a greater average, but the top thinkers do tend to be exclusively male. I suspect we are only larger on the average, because being small is a greater deterent to reproducing than being an idiot... Strenght is a matter of design, that baby factory uses infrastructure that is mandatory for greater strenght. All other physical attributes are more affected by culture than gender.

Also, the male was designed for combat, since he is (by natures view) expendable.
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Old Sep 19, 2003, 04:32 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Uh, say what you want about women being more intelligent than men (although it's bullshit), but they still CANNOT DRIVE! :P Seriously, women cause so many more accidents and deaths than men because they can't keep their head looking straight. :\
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Old Sep 19, 2003, 10:47 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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That is untrue. Insurance rates are lower for women because they have "LESS" accidents. Would you like the statistics?
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Old Sep 19, 2003, 11:39 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by fedfem@09-19-2003 10:47 PM
That is untrue. Insurance rates are lower for women because they have "LESS" accidents. Would you like the statistics?
Yeah but that just means that men are more brave and are willing to take risks lol.


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Old Sep 20, 2003, 09:38 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Actually, women have many more accidents, but they are usually minor ones, like dings cause they misjudged the distance and boring accidents like that. Men however have many less accidents, but when we do its more likely to be impressive, writing off two cars and a lamppost in the process. So it obviously costs insurence companies more.


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Old Sep 20, 2003, 10:07 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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He are some interesting stats from the Insurance Industry.

http://www.hwysafety.org/safety_facts/fata...acts/gender.htm
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Old Sep 20, 2003, 12:55 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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fedfem, show me something that disproves what I and especially G. Adams have said - because those stats do not.
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Old Sep 20, 2003, 01:21 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Uh, say what you want about women being more intelligent than men (although it's bullshit), but they still CANNOT DRIVE! :P Seriously, women cause so many more accidents and deaths than men because they can't keep their head looking straight. :\


Well your point is disproved.

At almost all ages, males had higher passenger vehicle occupant death rates than females. In 2001, there was no gender difference among people younger than 16. The difference was greatest among people age 20-24, followed by people age 85 and older. The death rate was highest among males age 20-24 and 85 and older, and lowest among males and females younger than 16.

http://www.hwysafety.org/safety_facts/fata...acts/gender.htm


Since G. Adams did not attribute higher fatalities to female drivers--the stats do not apply. G. Adams was not saying that women are not intelligent because......

You were. These stats disprove your statement.
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Old Sep 20, 2003, 04:59 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by fedfem@09-17-2003 09:59 AM
Being smart and being a leader do not necessarily go hand in hand. Look at Bush.lol


I do not know the statistics as far as uni lecturers. I had not heard of any problems regarding females, though.

I think now that females are encouraged to enter the science and math arena, they will do just as well. There are many male literary masters too. I do agree that the different genders do have their advantages.
Bush is a terrible example since he is both stupid and a horrible leader
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Old Sep 20, 2003, 05:19 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by fedfem@09-20-2003 01:21 PM
G. Adams was not saying that women are not intelligent because......

You were.
Mind pointing out were I stated "women are not intelligent?"

That's what I thought, liar.
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Old Sep 20, 2003, 06:16 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Since you have no statistics to debate mine, must you resort to calling me a liar?

I don't recall ever saying that females were more intelligent--to be honest--as you only said that females being more intelligent was "bullshit".

Do you feel that you never have to back up any of your statements with statistics?

I agree it is fun to get into a heated discourse but this is not debating it is name-calling and opinion only.

Why can't you defend your opinions with facts(and a sprinkling of namecalling}?

What driving has to do with the Science and Engineering Study is beyond me anyway.
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Old Sep 21, 2003, 10:47 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Actually the driving ability is linked to multi-tasking, a skill that women are much better at. But this is anouther case that proves my own point, since the best professional drivers are male as well, and the worst are also male.

Also since women are still at a disadvantage when it comes to authority, they learn much earlier to use reason to back their opinion, rather than simply rationalizing their opinion like sodfather and legolas...as an example.
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Old Sep 22, 2003, 01:27 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Women don't usually take risks, thats why there are less serious accidents involving female drivers, women have to be like this as they are programmed by nature to be more carefull as they carry babys inside them.
Men are risktakers as life intended them to be, from prehistory or the human race wouldnt have even got out of the stone age.
I put the falling behind of boys in our education system in Australia not so much as to females suddenly realising their potential, but more too a lack of physical discipline at home and in society, which is the only thing boys growing up are capable of respecting.
Also, thanks too our wonderful modern manhating womens movement, hardly any positive male role models for them to learn from, a sensitive male feminist isnt the most inspiring thing around, and dare I say the truth alot of covert feminist agression in the Education system, spitefull and childish most of them.

I'm not really sure if its such a great Idea to have Co-ed highschools, particularly these days, the average boys hormones are going through the roof in the teen years, and a nice looking pair of crossed legs in a short skirt is alot more appealing to think about, than say Physics or Geography.
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Old Sep 22, 2003, 01:48 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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...as if a teenage boy needs an actual girl to be in sight to be thinking with his hormones...

IMO: the desire to impress the girl balances the equation.
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