Inmates Go On Strike To Protest Wage Cut

[Sgt. Rock]

If you committ a crime you should pay the price.

I am tired of hearing about prisoners rights. They give up their rights when thy break the law! What about the victims rights? Its cruel to put a convict to death by leathel injection after he or she beat someone to death or drowned their own children? Give them one chance to appeal and after a year is up take them out back and shoot em!

By the way I served 5 yrs in a fla prison for grand theft auto and strightened my ass out when I left. I recived $25, a new set of clothes, and a bus ticket back to my home town.

I worked every crappy LEGAL job I could find, got my GED, went to Florida State Fire College and became a professional firefighter/medic. Prisons need to be a place you fear not a place to work out and watch cable. :)

[Seeker_Of_Sins]

Society has a list of rules that we all live by. When you choose to break those rules you are removed from society for the protection of others. In return, a member of society receives rights for being a member of that group so therefore if you choose to break those rules you should also be prepared to give up your rights.

Personally I cant see why prisoners wouldn't be required to start paying back their dept to society once they get out of prison. Alas all we get are bleeding hearts and liberals who most likely live in communes or in closed gate communities. At least Sgt Rock has the decency to present an opinion based on experience and he also presents a life lesson. There are no free rides, get over it and get on with it.

If all these thoughts on reform and treating prisoners like a long lost son were working, how come most prisoners return to a life of crime after being released?

Crime is a lifestyle choice. Prison is societies answer to that lifestyle choice. Me, I reckon you hit em where it hurts, in the pocket. You take everything they own on arrest to pay for costs and then hit them again when they leave until they start becoming a contributing member of society.

[Lava]

Quote by: Sgt. Rock, I worked every crappy LEGAL job I could find, got my GED, went to Florida State Fire College and became a professional firefighter/medic. Prisons need to be a place you fear not a place to work out and watch cable. :)

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Right on.


> I am tired of hearing about prisoners rights. They give up their rights when thy break the law!

But that I cant accept at all. If you kill someone, maybe yes, but if you go there innocent, or you go there for not paying a tv license, or any one of a whole slew of petty and questionable laws... I dont think so. Or political laws. Since when was the law - or rather the variable practice of it, not always even legal - the ultimate determinant of Right and Wrong? It tries, and does well, but nothing is perfect. There will always be times when it lacks much credibility, or just screws up from start to finish.


Regards, Lava!

[Gorgo]

Why? It helps no one and makes prison guards' jobs harder.

Originally posted by Lava, I worked every crappy LEGAL job I could find, got my GED, went to Florida State Fire College and became a professional firefighter/medic. Prisons need to be a place you fear not a place to work out and watch cable. :)

[Compugasm]

Not like the prisoners could vote you out of office for cutting wages 75%.

The right to strike and engage in collective action is protected in society.

But not in prison. You lose rights in prison. That's part of the point.

Organizing and/or engaging in a group demonstration is serious business. Especially when you're dealing with people who break the law. That's how riots break out.

The prison officials were clearly in the wrong.

Absolutely not. Take my job in prison for a couple months, then come back and tell me that you'd allow a group demonstration. If you did, you're beyond hope anyway.

Originally posted by Sgt. Rock, Prisons need to be a place you fear not a place to work out and watch cable. :)

Yeah, but look at it from the CO's point of view: you work out, you do your aork assignments, you're watching TV, playing sports, whatever, and you're tired and less likely to get into fights, not bored and cracking plans to bust out.

Methods to the madness. Didn't you ever notice that while you were down?

[Lava]

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Why? It helps no one and makes prison guards' jobs harder. [/quote]

To give people an incentive to not go back there, obviously.

Regards, Lava

[Gorgo]

That doesn't work.

[Sgt. Rock]

Originally posted by KSoDBartman,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KSoDBartman,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Sgt. Rock, Prisons need to be a place you fear not a place to work out and watch cable. :)

Yeah, but look at it from the CO's point of view: you work out, you do your aork assignments, you're watching TV, playing sports, whatever, and you're tired and less likely to get into fights, not bored and cracking plans to bust out.

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Ok bartman I understand why these things are done but I think that alot of times prisons are too comfortable. I hateted it when I was in, but the worst thing was'nt the structure or the inability to get paid for working, it was looking through the fence and seeing those in the world doing everyday things that I took for granted, that changed me.

As far as working who would'nt? We did not get paid but it sure beat the hell out of siting in a 8x9 and staring at the walls. It is true there are people in prison who are innocent of that particular charge but I think more often than not they are guilty of another one they did'nt get nailed for. Like the man said if you can't do the time don't do the crime.

Then you hear the story of the guy who did'nt do anything wrong but was at his buds house when the cops kicked in the door and busted them all for possesion. If this happens then your an idiot for hanging out with someone whos breaking the law and the judge should sentence you for stupidity.

If you don't want to be a victim of the system then don't put yourself in that position. If you want to know why most people are in prison it's because they've brought into the bullshit that they are victims and the world owes them. Newsflash for all the victims: nobody owes you anything! You get out of this life what you put into it. If wealth is your thing bust your hump and sacrfice and you can be wealthy. If it's knowledge bust your hump and get your butt in college ect.

If you concider yourself a man you must be accountable for all of your actions. If you screw up then suck it up and take you medicin. Government can't and should'nt be in the buisness of rehabilating you. Only you can rehabilitate yourself.

[Compugasm]

castile mentioned being thrown in a copper mine to work with my bear hands... That's enough to keep me in line.

[castille]

"Shoot em all and let god decide."