Legalize marijuana?

[SoccerfreakAB2]

Would legalizing marijuana make it less of a problem or more of a problem? I have my opinions, but I'd like to read the other opinions first.

[carriew]

i think it would cause less of a problem

no proof just MHO

[Aaron Spicka]

Check past posts on this topic. you'll be reading for a while.

[castille]

Personally I agree with legalising drugs, but only if their sale is carefully controlled and regulated on the government.

However, the practical side of me says that if we do, there is a risk the public might percieve the government as "pushovers", and lose confident in the rule of government altogether. I mean if the government bows to pressure so quickly, how will they deal with terrorism?

So I'm mixed. Perhaps legalise soft drugs, and increase penalties for harder drugs.

[Prometheus]

Just out of curiosity, is this topic, or evolution the most often discussed topic on the whole bloody internet?

I have been in this same debate so many times that I will probably not bother participating too much. Also, I know how the majority around here feels: 75%+ on this site would legalize. This topic normally just tunrs into everyone stating and agreeing with the same old arguments, working into a frenzy of masterbatory self righteousness and indignation at "the man".

[SoccerfreakAB2]

Quote by: Prometheus Just out of curiosity, is this topic, or evolution the most often discussed topic on the whole bloody internet? I have been in this same debate so many times that I will probably not bother participating too much. Also, I know how the majority around here feels: 75%+ on this site would legalize. This topic normally just tunrs into everyone stating and agreeing with the same old arguments, working into a frenzy of masterbatory self righteousness and indignation at "the man".

Fair enough.

[carriew]

lol
I hadnt ralized before I replied that this has been rehashed here before.

75% really would legalize on this forum that is pleasently surprising...

[Prometheus]

Quote by: carriew I hadnt ralized before I replied that this has been rehashed here before.

New to internet forums? It's been rehashed on *every* internet forum. I swear, this issue and evolution are what *started* the internet.

[SoccerfreakAB2]

Quote by: Prometheus New to internet forums? It's been rehashed on *every* internet forum. I swear, this issue and evolution are what *started* the internet.

I would of thought that abortion would be the biggest thing going around.

[Libertarian]

Quote by: SoccerfreakAB2 Would legalizing marijuana make it less of a problem or more of a problem?

drug prohibition inflates the cost of drugs, leading users to steal to support their high priced habits. It is estimated that drug addicts commit 25% of all auto thefts, 40% of robberies and assaults, and 50% of burglaries and larcenies.

The numbers speak for themselves. Legalize it and lessen the stealing in this country.

[carriew]

Quote by: Prometheus New to internet forums? It's been rehashed on *every* internet forum. I swear, this issue and evolution are what *started* the internet.

I guess you could say I am a bit wet behind the ears... I was in bulliten boards back in the 90ies before this internet that we use now(or at least before I could use it lol)
I belong to 2 other groups one is a tubal reversal group(reversal of a tubal ligation) and the richdad poor dad forum.(about financial freedom) so I havent seen this before.

I do alot of searching on this www and thats how I found this place.

I have to say I have alot to brush up on...

[Osborn F Enready]

First of all, reclassification of marijuana is necessary, since they deem marijuana as narcotics currently.

Second of all, I agree marijuana should be fully legalised with the same limited restrictions to sale as alchohol except I believe it should be available for purchase at 18, or they should change the age for military service to 21. If a person can die for their country, be held responsible for their actions as any adult, they should be able to buy intoxicants.

Third, marijuana should never have been outlawed in the first place, as many studies have shown, as well as law and Constitutional scholars have agreed.

[Osborn F Enready]

Carrie, welcome to the debate!

[jai_lyn7249]

Quote by: Prometheus New to internet forums? It's been rehashed on *every* internet forum. I swear, this issue and evolution are what *started* the internet.

lol........................... i agree.

[SoccerfreakAB2]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready First of all, reclassification of marijuana is necessary, since they deem marijuana as narcotics currently. Second of all, I agree marijuana should be fully legalised with the same limited restrictions to sale as alchohol except I believe it should be available for purchase at 18, or they should change the age for military service to 21. If a person can die for their country, be held responsible for their actions as any adult, they should be able to buy intoxicants. Third, marijuana should never have been outlawed in the first place, as many studies have shown, as well as law and Constitutional scholars have agreed.

Great points. I hardly see a difference between alcohol, cigarrettes, and marijuana. Surprisingly, marijuana has no physical addiction, and it is the one that's illegal.

Legalize it and maybe kids won't be so excited to "break the law." I know a lot of kids who do it as a form of rebellion. They don't come out and say this, but when things are going bad, they want some pot.

Any more ideas on the longterm effect of legalization?

[Logjam]

Quote by: Prometheus Just out of curiosity, is this topic, or evolution the most often discussed topic on the whole bloody internet?

Maybe, but I think homosexuality and the various questions that surround it are the most written about. But it's just a hunch. You might be right.

[Logjam]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready First of all, reclassification of marijuana is necessary, since they deem marijuana as narcotics currently. Second of all, I agree marijuana should be fully legalised with the same limited restrictions to sale as alchohol except I believe it should be available for purchase at 18, or they should change the age for military service to 21. If a person can die for their country, be held responsible for their actions as any adult, they should be able to buy intoxicants. Third, marijuana should never have been outlawed in the first place, as many studies have shown, as well as law and Constitutional scholars have agreed.

That's just what we need. More intoxicated citizens. (sarcasm intended) :rolleyes:

People seek intoxication, but that doesn't mean the being intoxicated is good. As a matter of fact it can be proven that it's bad. We are better served by clear thinking, centered and focused citizens.

Booze is bad enough, why add another intoxicant?

[carriew]

as someone who has smoked I can assure you that smoking a joint does not have the same intoxicating effects as a few beers does. a differnt effect all together imho

[Logjam]

Quote by: carriew as someone who has smoked I can assure you that smoking a joint does not have the same intoxicating effects as a few beers does. a differnt effect all together imho

But, you haven't delt with my thesis. Which is: society does not benefit by having more intoxicated citizens. It's only partically relevant which substance renders one more intoxicated than the other.

However, one can drink a beer and not be hampered. One does not always drink a beer to become intoxicated. One ALWAYS smokes a joint to become hammered. Therefore, I suspect that small amounts of booze is less dangerous than relatively light MJ usage.

[Prometheus]

Quote by: Logjam But, you haven't delt with my thesis. Which is: society does not benefit by having more intoxicated citizens. It's only partically relevant which substance renders one more intoxicated than the other. However, one can drink a beer and not be hampered. One does not always drink a beer to become intoxicated. One ALWAYS smokes a joint to become hammered. Therefore, I suspect that small amounts of booze is less dangerous than relatively light MJ usage.

True, but the difference is only quantitative. If it's quantitative then it requires an arbitrary judgment. The law should be qualitative when possible. The quality I would rather see is the concept that you can do with your body as you damn well please. Of course driving while intoxicated would still be enforced.