Menezes death 'a state execution'
19 Sept 2005
reading back through the posts, there are many who would express different opinions now, imo. surely it was always suspicious that if they suspected him as a bomber, that allowing him onto a train was the utmost folly. was it not clearly not a murphy's law case. just about everything was done wrong.The shooting dead of Jean Charles de Menezes during a hunt for terrorists amounted to "a state execution", a leading Liberal Democrat has said.
Matthew Taylor, the party's former chairman, said the "fundamentals of civil liberties" were under threat from government-led anti-terror efforts.
Mr Menezes was shot dead at Stockwell tube station the day after the failed 21 July bombings in London.
Mr Taylor said the government should not "surrender" the rule of law.
putting myself inside the head of a suicide bomber, i have thought how this event might change things. previously, i was only interested in getting to a train to fulfill my mission. as a female, i'm not sure what's in it for me as all those virgins are not top of my list. however, i might have being looking for the opportunity to change my mind. now every bobby or short-haired whitie may wish to execute me. so i'm going to make sure that i press my button before he presses his trigger.
there is no way that i see any advantage in the new 'shoot to kill' policy that lessens the number of bombings. the bomber intends dying. the number he/she dies with is the issue. nothing in the 'shoot to kill' policy changes that. imo it only insures a 'hit' every time.
so the outcome:
one; will anyone trust the police version of any subsequent event. they told a tissue of lies and have been found out.
two; if you had the choice, would you put a foot inside london while the 'shoot to kill' policy continues. those 5, 8, 11 bullets will cost an unbelievable amount. the notion of the friendly english bobby is dead and gone.
the lessns of the past have not been learnt in england, no more than the same in ireland. our police and guns do not mix. i can only remember the number of 'bad' hits. my logic might be that any office who volunteers for gun service is the last one that i would trust with a gun. join the army if you wish to carry.