Fireworks- Illegal some places, Legal some places

[moustache]

Fireworks are very interesting.

Here in Oregon fireworks are limited. If a firework shoots sparks above 10 feet, it is considered Illegal.

Our neighbor to the north, Washington, has a better deal. You can buy mortars and roman candles (things like that) in Washington. These fireworks can shoot about 50 feet (estimate) into the air.

Every year my family drives to Washington to get the good stuff. When will Oregon just give up the "Firework Ban?"

[Rave7pt0]

Different places have different moisture levels. A medium firework could burn tens of thousands of acres in northern california, but not necessarily do any damage in Washington.

[moustache]

Oregon has a very wet climate. This year it was raining almost every day up until the middle of june.

Maybe its because I live outside of Portland, but still. I dont think the moisture is much of a problem.

[tman_ndsu08]

Moustache, here in Minnesota, we have the same situation.

In fact, I believe that every (that would be 5) state that borders MN sells the good fireworks. MN only allows small ones.

So every 4th of July, at least a million people in Minneapolis will make the very short trek over to Wisconsin to get the good fireworks. It's a pathetic joke.

The weirdest thing about it is that everyone in MN knows it happens. The state makes no effort to stop people bringing back illegal fireworks. Why not lift the stupid rule and allow MN business to get all that money?

Of course, that makes common sense so that automatically means it won't happen.

[moustache]

Quote by: tman_ndsu08 It's a pathetic joke.

I completely agree with you.

Its limiting the rights of the people, and I have yet to find a reason why they should do this. I live fairly close to the washington border (about an hour away) so we dont have much trouble getting the fireworks.

-The fireworks arent unpredictable (They aret like bottle rockets, which are even illegal in washington).
-Oregon has a wet climate, especially northern Oregon where I live.

Does any one have any other reasons why we shouldnt be allowed to have good fireworks?

Also, A couple 4th of July's ago we visited our family in Wyoming. They have the REALLY good stuff. Even more dangerous that Washington. They have bottle rockets and things like them that can be very unpredictable. Wyomings climate is DRY. much dryer than Oregon or Washington.

It just doesnt make sense.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Some places have regional restrictions based on the moisture levels. But some states have banned fireworks for the "good of the people".

Which is just another reason to hate Maine. They only allow Sparklers.

BTW Bottle Rocks, are the shiznit. I loved last year in Texas, massive Fireworks display I got to host for my Aunt and Uncle, we shot off over 300 Fireworks.

[Morgan_Freeman]

In Washington, fireworks are illegal every day EXCEPT July 4th!!!!!!!!!

Firecrackers, bottlerockets, and any other explosives are illegal, period!!!!!!!

[moustache]

Some places have regional restrictions based on the moisture levels. But some states have banned fireworks for the "good of the people". Which is just another reason to hate Maine. They only allow Sparklers. BTW Bottle Rocks, are the shiznit. I loved last year in Texas, massive Fireworks display I got to host for my Aunt and Uncle, we shot off over 300 Fireworks.

That really bites Mr. V...My cousins live in Conneticut, and I think its the same deal. Is it for "the good of the people." in Maine? Because I wouldnt think that moisture woud be a problem...just like here in Oregon.

In Washington, fireworks are illegal every day EXCEPT July 4th!!!!!!!!! Firecrackers, bottlerockets, and any other explosives are illegal, period!!!!!!!

Yea but Morgan, in Washington you can just drive over to the indian reservations and get your Firecrackers and Bottlerockets.

And what do you men any other explosives are illegal? I drove up there yesterday and bought me some mortars, roman candles, and flying things.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Moisture ain't a problem. I have been told by my neighbors they think it's crazy to risk letting people hurt themselves with fireworks. "Think of all the children hurt every year by fireworks!"

Kids get injured every day... and?

[moustache]

yea really. If the parents arent careful enough to watch the kids, or if the kids arent responsible nough, then just dont buy them. They shouldnt limit it for everybody.

[Jack]

They're totally illegal here, and if you go into Mexico to buy them and they catch you at the border, they'll confiscate them. So what do some people do? They go outside and shoot off guns instead. Talk about gross carelessness. I'd much rather have fireworks going off.

[belverron]

BTW Bottle Rocks, are the shiznit. I loved last year in Texas, massive Fireworks display I got to host for my Aunt and Uncle, we shot off over 300 Fireworks.

Silly northerners.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Quote by: belverron Silly northerners.

Whose a northener?

100% Grade-A 3rd Generation Texan here. I just happen to be stuck in Maine for an indeterminate amount of time.

[Osborn F Enready]

You know what I find funny about this whole thing.

OFF TOPIC:
This entire debate, is framed in exactly the same thought process and logical foundations as the illegalization of marijuana, yet the people complaining about the illegalization of fireworks, are the ones that normally champion the illegalization of marijuana.

Replace the words fireworks, with marijuana, in all the previous posts, and you have almost every debate on marijuana verbatim.

ON TOPIC:
I think fireworks are one of those issues that the government feels it knows better than the people, much like drugs. Convincing the government they are wrong takes support of people for the cause, which requires effort, which many don't seem to have when it comes to politics since facts are so hard to find as to why the laws were created, who created them, and why they are still in effect. I should also bring to point that there is also the point of public opinion of the law in question.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Response to the Off Topic:

People don't steal to buy fireworks, don't stop going ot work for fire works, don't lose cognative abilities after firing off fireworks thus making them liablities on the road...

The oppisite is true when high on dope.

[moustache]

Also, fireworks are used only 1 time per year in most cases.

[Milton Bradley]

[QOUTE=Mr.Vicchio] Response to the Off Topic:

People don't steal to buy fireworks, don't stop going ot work for fire works, don't lose cognative abilities after firing off fireworks thus making them liablities on the road...

The oppisite is true when high on dope.[/quote]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Moisture ain't a problem. I have been told by my neighbors they think it's crazy to risk letting people hurt themselves with fireworks. "Think of all the children hurt every year by fireworks!" Kids get injured every day... and?

Replace the word "kids", and "children" with "people" , and there is your answer. You seem to know when to mind your business when it comes to things that you like, but are unable to draw the same line in the sand when dealing with things that you are prejudiced against.

[Prometheus]

I wish more fireworks were legal. I get payed double time and a half for fighting forest fires on holidays.

[moustache]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Replace the word "kids", and "children" with "people" , and there is your answer.

If people are responsible, and follow the directions on the fireworks...then the bigger fireworks are just as safe as the little ones.

[G. Adams]

Come to the UK. We have everything and it's legal year round, although it is difficult to find before september (thats the sales run up to Guy Fawkes Night) and a little after New Years. Every year we have fireworks in our back garden (our back garden is about 20feet long...) ranging from crappy little ones that shoot about 10 feet of sparks to the hefty rockets that sail way more than fifty feet into the air and burst massive showers like you'd see in any orchestrated show.

And then there is my amusing career as a teenager shooting rockets out of plastic tubing like an RPG and hurling bangers around at peoples doors. Good times.