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Red_Emma · Feb 13, 2004, 04:21 pm

I was just wondering what are yalls opinions on Operation Stargate (CIA conducting test on 16 psychics called "The Naturals" ...20 million spent and it recently ended in 1995 one of the reasons being they were only right 25% of the time..). Also MK ULTRA II (Extra Sensory Perception experiments were conducted on Military personnel and Mental Patients at a Ontario hospital by the CIA..drugs from LSD, Masculine, and PCP were used, most of the time without the victims consent. Also it is rumored that they have also been involved with poisoning small towns water supplies with LSD even thought it seems too risky even for the CIA..but who would of expected the bay of pigs or all those staged military coups in south america either? lol ..) So I am wondering how do you think that MK ULTRA II and Operation Stargate effected our society...and what if they did find something but didnt report it..half of the bombings in vietnam didnt come out until several years later and so on...what if Orwell was right in "1984" ..with his idea of a society that had "thought police"...it would make the patriot act seem harmless..I am just wondering how do you think these events effect our society and do they show what our government is heading towards?

tusaki · Feb 13, 2004, 04:35 pm

Stargate was a project which had several people being given coordinates and then they drew what was there. Actually one of the amazing things was that they were right some of the time! And I'm not talking about being right in a 'general' sense, i'm talking about being right 100%. So for example, when they were given the coordinates to a secret soviet base and they drew with 100% accuracy the devices which were in that base. This is called 'controlled remote viewing'. Even the 25% you say is an amazing number. Makes you wonder what is possible.

CRV: http://www.crviewer.com/crviewer/index.html
Project Stargate: http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/stargate.htm

james? · Feb 13, 2004, 06:29 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Red_Emma,)
I was just wondering what are yalls opinions on Operation Stargate (CIA conducting test on 16 psychics called "The Naturals" ...20 million spent and it recently ended in 1995 one of the reasons being they were only right 25% of the time..). Also MK ULTRA II (Extra Sensory Perception experiments were conducted on Military personnel and Mental Patients at a Ontario hospital by the CIA..drugs from LSD, Masculine, and PCP were used, most of the time without the victims consent. Also it is rumored that they have also been involved with poisoning small towns water supplies with LSD even thought it seems too risky even for the CIA..but who would of expected the bay of pigs or all those staged military coups in south america either? lol ..) So I am wondering how do you think that MK ULTRA II and Operation Stargate effected our society...and what if they did find something but didnt report it..half of the bombings in vietnam didnt come out until several years later and so on...what if Orwell was right in "1984" ..with his idea of a society that had "thought police"...it would make the patriot act seem harmless..I am just wondering how do you think these events effect our society and do they show what our government is heading towards?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Really, really interesting. And about the Thought Police, I definitely think it's inevitable.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (tusaki,)
Stargate was a project which had several people being given coordinates and then they drew what was there. Actually one of the amazing things was that they were right some of the time! And I'm not talking about being right in a 'general' sense, i'm talking about being right 100%. So for example, when they were given the coordinates to a secret soviet base and they drew with 100% accuracy the devices which were in that base. This is called 'controlled remote viewing'. Even the 25% you say is an amazing number. Makes you wonder what is possible.
<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I personally think people are just ignorant when they refuse to accept anything but the material world.

Red_Emma · Feb 13, 2004, 08:23 pm

I wonder if the CIA were to spend 20 million dollars on Operation Stargate and werent to end it until 1995 ..and the book i read on it said they were worried because the soviets were conducting similar test with ESP...so this had to be pretty far back before the cold war got underway..or maybe in early beginnings of it..I wonder why they kept it going so long and im sure that 20 million wasnt spent in the first few years...I would love to get my hands on the files of the results of the test but im sure that would endanger our "National Security"...lol..

Zeebadee · Feb 16, 2004, 04:51 pm

One can only hope our government didn't pay the usual contractor markup on all the tinfoil hats these programs would have required.

Rossalami · Feb 21, 2008, 04:29 pm

Stargate is being used to brainwash people who think they are, or really ARE psychic.
Target them with such like as EMF- see Alex Constantine on the proof of stargate involving emf mind control.
Also LSD, evidence- Grof and his involvement in Stargate.
I don't know if you are the Red Amma related to posts slamming Pete Tridish, but if so, you are asking the right questions.
I think that the overall idea is to infiltrate the left wing and turn them into drooling LSD lobotomy cases.
Regarding tinfoil hats: Kucinich introduced legislature to Congress in a failed attempt to stop space based mind control weaponry.
I personally would support him on that one.
I wonder if LPFM stations could be coopted and used for local mind-wiping.
Who can afford an EMF detector? You'll know when your hair starts crackling. Haha.

Compugasm · Feb 21, 2008, 06:56 pm

Since I had nothing better to do, I went researching the claims on the fas.org site. Just one "fact" took two hours to look up. There are thousands of things to research here. There is no way anyone can claim they could piece all these references to agencies, unconfirmed reports, missing people, secret meetings, and random events and make any conclusions. Unless you want to sell books and get on the radio. I'm actually more ticked off I wasted my time on this post, than I am about conspiracy. So, either I'm under the control of EMF mind control, or you are. Now shut up and buy a Seacrane and listen to the whitenoise.

Rossalami · Mar 5, 2008, 06:43 pm

Thanks for your time. If you care about not caring enough to waste more, I am curious about what you meant by "missing persons." Are they perhaps just hiding from their attackers? I have been looking into the LSD and antennaes aspect of it. I could easily imagine the urge to bolt the hell out of here. Very easily...

Compugasm · Mar 6, 2008, 05:43 am

Quote:

Quote by: Rossalami

Are they perhaps just hiding from their attackers?

I have no idea, and neither does anyone else. Let me be clear. I'm willing to entertain the idea that there is "something" that doesn't sound right. However, either a key figure won't talk, a questionable source lives on the other side of the world, or a "confidential report" has mysterious whereabouts, etc... To me, that is even fishier than the conspiracy they're trying to uncover. 4th or 5th hand information is useless.

Hiding from attackers? Then theorize who they're hiding from, and why, and on and on. The truth is, the whole cat-n-mouse game of cover-up and shadowy men IS all there ever was. That's why I saw this is a waste of time.

Rossalami · Mar 7, 2008, 01:19 am

My name is Ross Rice.
Allen Rice, a urantian Leader in Oroville, is a founder of radio station KRBS in Oroville.
He diagnosed and treated my sister with drug hypnosis. He stepped in to stop me when I was trying to keep my Uncle from being drugged to death ina facility that does human experiments.
He tried to check me into a facility that does brain implants (chips in head).
He advocates LSD along with his Urantian brethren.
His radio station promotes his Urantian agenda and that of Stan Grof, who is mentioned in declassified Stargate documents as entertaining an operative at Esalen.
My family disowned me based on lies I can disprove and they refuse to look at the evidence.
They are talking crazy. Like real crazy man.
Urantiagate offers much fact behind the hypothesis. Just look at the facts. They are there.
What I was trying to ask is what you were referring to when you said "missing people."

Feb 13, 2004, 04:35 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
tusaki Playful Location: Groningen, the Netherlands Posts: 805	Stargate was a project which had several people being given coordinates and then they drew what was there. Actually one of the amazing things was that they were right some of the time! And I'm not talking about being right in a 'general' sense, i'm talking about being right 100%. So for example, when they were given the coordinates to a secret soviet base and they drew with 100% accuracy the devices which were in that base. This is called 'controlled remote viewing'. Even the 25% you say is an amazing number. Makes you wonder what is possible. CRV: http://www.crviewer.com/crviewer/index.html Project Stargate: http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/stargate.htm Hope & Dream

Feb 13, 2004, 06:29 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
james? Molten Ash Location: Minnesota Posts: 84	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Red_Emma,) I was just wondering what are yalls opinions on Operation Stargate (CIA conducting test on 16 psychics called "The Naturals" ...20 million spent and it recently ended in 1995 one of the reasons being they were only right 25% of the time..). Also MK ULTRA II (Extra Sensory Perception experiments were conducted on Military personnel and Mental Patients at a Ontario hospital by the CIA..drugs from LSD, Masculine, and PCP were used, most of the time without the victims consent. Also it is rumored that they have also been involved with poisoning small towns water supplies with LSD even thought it seems too risky even for the CIA..but who would of expected the bay of pigs or all those staged military coups in south america either? lol ..) So I am wondering how do you think that MK ULTRA II and Operation Stargate effected our society...and what if they did find something but didnt report it..half of the bombings in vietnam didnt come out until several years later and so on...what if Orwell was right in "1984" ..with his idea of a society that had "thought police"...it would make the patriot act seem harmless..I am just wondering how do you think these events effect our society and do they show what our government is heading towards?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Really, really interesting. And about the Thought Police, I definitely think it's inevitable. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (tusaki,) Stargate was a project which had several people being given coordinates and then they drew what was there. Actually one of the amazing things was that they were right some of the time! And I'm not talking about being right in a 'general' sense, i'm talking about being right 100%. So for example, when they were given the coordinates to a secret soviet base and they drew with 100% accuracy the devices which were in that base. This is called 'controlled remote viewing'. Even the 25% you say is an amazing number. Makes you wonder what is possible. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I personally think people are just ignorant when they refuse to accept anything but the material world.

Feb 16, 2004, 04:51 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Zeebadee Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,701	One can only hope our government didn't pay the usual contractor markup on all the tinfoil hats these programs would have required. "Everybody knows that the boat is leaking Everybody knows that the captain lied." - Leonard Cohen

Feb 21, 2008, 04:29 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Rossalami Sedimentary Rock Posts: 3	MK Ultra lives on Stargate is being used to brainwash people who think they are, or really ARE psychic. Target them with such like as EMF- see Alex Constantine on the proof of stargate involving emf mind control. Also LSD, evidence- Grof and his involvement in Stargate. I don't know if you are the Red Amma related to posts slamming Pete Tridish, but if so, you are asking the right questions. I think that the overall idea is to infiltrate the left wing and turn them into drooling LSD lobotomy cases. Regarding tinfoil hats: Kucinich introduced legislature to Congress in a failed attempt to stop space based mind control weaponry. I personally would support him on that one. I wonder if LPFM stations could be coopted and used for local mind-wiping. Who can afford an EMF detector? You'll know when your hair starts crackling. Haha.

Feb 21, 2008, 06:56 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,419	Since I had nothing better to do, I went researching the claims on the fas.org site. Just one "fact" took two hours to look up. There are thousands of things to research here. There is no way anyone can claim they could piece all these references to agencies, unconfirmed reports, missing people, secret meetings, and random events and make any conclusions. Unless you want to sell books and get on the radio. I'm actually more ticked off I wasted my time on this post, than I am about conspiracy. So, either I'm under the control of EMF mind control, or you are. Now shut up and buy a Seacrane and listen to the whitenoise. I'd like to thank Charlie Hodge, bringing me scarves and water.

Feb 13, 2004, 04:21 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Red_Emma P//E Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 39	I was just wondering what are yalls opinions on Operation Stargate (CIA conducting test on 16 psychics called "The Naturals" ...20 million spent and it recently ended in 1995 one of the reasons being they were only right 25% of the time..). Also MK ULTRA II (Extra Sensory Perception experiments were conducted on Military personnel and Mental Patients at a Ontario hospital by the CIA..drugs from LSD, Masculine, and PCP were used, most of the time without the victims consent. Also it is rumored that they have also been involved with poisoning small towns water supplies with LSD even thought it seems too risky even for the CIA..but who would of expected the bay of pigs or all those staged military coups in south america either? lol ..) So I am wondering how do you think that MK ULTRA II and Operation Stargate effected our society...and what if they did find something but didnt report it..half of the bombings in vietnam didnt come out until several years later and so on...what if Orwell was right in "1984" ..with his idea of a society that had "thought police"...it would make the patriot act seem harmless..I am just wondering how do you think these events effect our society and do they show what our government is heading towards?

Feb 13, 2004, 08:23 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Red_Emma P//E Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 39	I wonder if the CIA were to spend 20 million dollars on Operation Stargate and werent to end it until 1995 ..and the book i read on it said they were worried because the soviets were conducting similar test with ESP...so this had to be pretty far back before the cold war got underway..or maybe in early beginnings of it..I wonder why they kept it going so long and im sure that 20 million wasnt spent in the first few years...I would love to get my hands on the files of the results of the test but im sure that would endanger our "National Security"...lol..

Mar 5, 2008, 06:43 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Rossalami Sedimentary Rock Posts: 3	Some are more affected by ELF than others Thanks for your time. If you care about not caring enough to waste more, I am curious about what you meant by "missing persons." Are they perhaps just hiding from their attackers? I have been looking into the LSD and antennaes aspect of it. I could easily imagine the urge to bolt the hell out of here. Very easily...

Mar 7, 2008, 01:19 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
Rossalami Sedimentary Rock Posts: 3	First Hand My name is Ross Rice. Allen Rice, a urantian Leader in Oroville, is a founder of radio station KRBS in Oroville. He diagnosed and treated my sister with drug hypnosis. He stepped in to stop me when I was trying to keep my Uncle from being drugged to death ina facility that does human experiments. He tried to check me into a facility that does brain implants (chips in head). He advocates LSD along with his Urantian brethren. His radio station promotes his Urantian agenda and that of Stan Grof, who is mentioned in declassified Stargate documents as entertaining an operative at Esalen. My family disowned me based on lies I can disprove and they refuse to look at the evidence. They are talking crazy. Like real crazy man. Urantiagate offers much fact behind the hypothesis. Just look at the facts. They are there. What I was trying to ask is what you were referring to when you said "missing people."