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Old Feb 28, 2004, 05:23 pm   #41 (permalink) (top)
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Old Mar 3, 2004, 03:43 am   #42 (permalink) (top)
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Of course there are exceptions to everything and it is pointless to argue because several people can be just as right as each other in this!

My opinion, you can just be friends but not really truly without the sex thing never coming into it from one of the people.

Men and women are meant to be together in that way, and if you are around one of the opposite sex and you have fun with them or have good conversation or whatever there is NO WAY both people don't ask themselves "what do I think about them as a dating person?" NO WAY. It has to at least cross your mind.

so the people who are just friends are that way because one or both decided against the alternative for a particular reason.

Personally, I have never one time had a male friend that did not actually prefer to date me. Not one. I am almost 30 and since I started hanging out with boys at 13 there have been several that I loved being friends with but X'd off as a boyfriend.

Every one of them either wanted to be my boyfriend or at least sleep with me.

For the most part, I think women see a lot of advantages to male friends, but men mostly don't. All of my male friends have admitted they do not befriend women they are not attracted to, even if they don't plan on trying to make it more right away, they would like it regardless.

It's dangerous too...take a married man. No intention of cheating. Becomes friends with a female co-worker who he is attracted to but controls due to his commitment. Things start to get hard at home. Things are so easy with attractive coworker! One too many drinks.....bad story.

Same thing for a married women. Humans are too fallible.


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Old Mar 3, 2004, 03:53 am   #43 (permalink) (top)
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I think that cross-sex friendships are so nice if you're not in a relationship. But if you're in one, I think they should be practically off-limits.

The guys that I grew up with I will never stop hanging out with - most are married anyway - and my boyfriends have to understand that.

But 1) they are ALWAYS invited if I go hang out with them and 2) I would find striking up a new male friendship innappropriate and would invite my boyfirend/husband along also if I did for some reason. And I would expect him to do the same or I would consider it something fishy in most instances.


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Old Mar 3, 2004, 03:56 am   #44 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Atomica,)
[castille]"Just to ease the seriousness of the political stuff....


Do you think guys are capable of purely platonic friendships with women?"


As a man myself I have had hundreds of such relationships with women and rarely have I had the desire to get them into the sack.
But I could be attracted only to women...
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Do you mean with each individual female friend you rarely want to get her in the sack or it is the rare female friend that you desire in another way?


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Old Apr 19, 2004, 08:44 pm   #45 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by syracusa,
Oh, one more thing you guys:
You may also want to take into account your American/anglo culture bias that is literally brainwashing you everyday with this obssession with "looks".
On a related matter, in the culture where I am coming from (and others that think along the same lines and are known for HOT-BLOODED males), there is this long-held belief that a TRUE MAN (the kind that just LIVES to spread his genes :) ) will F*** anything female coming his way.

A man who fusses over the looks of a woman (oh, her nose is not quite perfect oh, she is kind of fat, oh she's not as 'hot' as a model etc) are considered incredible Pussies with very sad D***s.

The whole "A-woman-MUST-be-hot-for-my-precious-d***-to-get-up" ideology is just a pathetic cover-up for men who probably have little testosterone or drive but want to appear like they have A LOT.
But then again...nobody has ever accused anglo-saxon males for being great in bed anyway...or terribly sexual.

In reality, SEX AND ESTHETICS have absolutely NOTHING to do with each other.

Anybody care to guess what she looks like? You should have more respect for "Anglo" men. Try to find a culture in which women have as much respect and freedom as that provided by European/Germanic men. And watch your language.
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Old Jun 7, 2004, 09:49 am   #46 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by syracusa,
As a woman, I found castille's statement extremely rude, insulting and pathetic too.
Good.

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"If shes worth something, a lot of girls' "guy friends" just want to get laid with her". If she's "worth" something? ...
Applying logic, I take it any women who looks less than "Cosmo cover" is not "worth anything", according to Castille.
You're wrong. One of my bigger clients is female. She's worth $10,000 to me.

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If Castille is representative of most men, and "most men" rule the world...is it any wonder that the world is as shitty as it is?
Last time we left a chick in charge she went to war over an island

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..oh - and before you jump at evaluating my "worth" - I happen to be "worth" a lot (in your terms). Yeap, very attractive by standards.
The fact you've told me you are good-looking shows you've also submitted to my "male pig" standards of evaluating women.

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Old Jun 7, 2004, 12:46 pm   #47 (permalink) (top)
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Do you think guys are capable of purely platonic friendships with women?
Sure. It just takes a bit of repression. No problem, we repress stuff all the time. It's probably not going to be as deep as a mate or best buddy, but it's good to have lots of casual friends. If you are looking for a relationship, you can meet more women through women friends than through men friends. This is especially good if your female friend is attractive and you take care of yourself so you are desirable to hot women. Hot women tend to hang out with other hot women. So you get a friend, she gets a friend, and you can hook each other up to your buddies. It's a win-win all around.

Just gotta keep that repression thing going strong... and don't let her use you as her "emotional tampon".


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Old Jun 9, 2004, 05:15 pm   #48 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Autolykos,
You know, with all this discussion of "manliness," I would have to say this...

"Manliness" is subjective.
I could not agree more. I am a man, I have male drives and desires, but I don't like to degrade women, anymore than I like to be insulted. The english language and culture is geared towards as the women being the subjective force in society. It has only been rescently that we have begun to attempt to balance this out. As a socialist, I firmly believe that equality is infact the best choice.
Now as to the question, I believe it is possible, if neither party entertains romantic ideas. I also believe that such relationships do not last in the long term, as normaly either party begins to "give in" to basic sexual wants. It also occurs to me that more often than not, it is often the male which begins to falter first.


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Old Jun 9, 2004, 05:27 pm   #49 (permalink) (top)
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and now some reality...

my best friend is female. my other best friend is male. several of my other friends are male and female. having a mixed gender social group is healthy and socially superior.

sure sometimes i want to fuck my female friends. that's pretty natural though. i use my brain and mouth to deal with those kinds of feelings though, instead of my rooster.
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