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    Women's equality for bearing false witness

    ‎"I will feel equality has arrived when we can elect to office women who are as incompetent as some of the men who are already there." ~Maureen Reagan

    "I will feel equality has arrived when women who lie under oath about sex crimes must be listed in online sex predator registries, so their neighbors will know how dangerous they are." ~ Paul Lutus

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    Are you saying that women are sexual predators? Or, some of them anyways...

    You must be living in a different world to the one live in. Have they hit on you too?

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    A perceived slight by a clinical narcissist brings them into vendetta. The most powerful weapon is the false accusation of sexual predation and molestation. The weapon used is the public courts and opinion that are slaves to the "where there's smoke, there MUST be fire" thinking. The "rape" of the accused is accomplished.

    Presently there are laws that mandate a conviction of such a crime be punishable by prison time. AND after serving that time then unlike robbery or murder, or hit and run, they must register and inform neighbors of their crime.

    My only point is to either require all law breakers to inform neighbors or in the specific case of where the criminal is required to register and inform neighbors, that those falsely accusing of such crimes ALSO be required to register and inform neighbors of the type of person they are.

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    A perceived slight by a clinical narcissist brings them into
    vendetta.
    The most powerful weapon is the false accusation of sexual
    predation and molestation.
    Unfortunately this does happen, and terminology such as nutcase could apply. In my view, such people are just as bad as rapists, really. Even if there's no
    sign of molestation or real evidence, some people are likely to believe any such false claims, thus harming the person's reputation possibly for good, and it may become a totally unjust game of "pester the molester."

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post

    My only point is to either require all law breakers to inform neighbors or in the specific case of where the criminal is required to register and inform neighbors, that those falsely accusing of such crimes ALSO be required to register and inform neighbors of the type of person they are.
    Okay then let's here your argument for the repeal of the 5th amendment.


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    Lutus recounts his episode. Under the heading Case History here: http://www.arachnoid.com/psychology/aspergers.php

    I've my own experience with malignant narcissists. Male and female. However, in my experience, the lying male's accusations took a much more benign form, more tolerable in the repercussions of any believing them, than false accusations of rape or child molestation.

    I only single out the female's in the OP as to the uncanny similar wording I found in the quotes. AND the selective requirements that come from sexual convictions once the prison time has been completed. I feel there is as much justice in the punishment for those falsely accusing of the crime as the punishment that comes of being convicted of it.

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    Okay then let's here your argument for the repeal of the 5th amendment.
    Wuffo?

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    Wuffo?
    Because your only point, as stated in post#3 , directly contradicts the rights outlined in the 5th.


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    Because your only point, as stated in post#3 , directly contradicts the rights outlined in the 5th.
    Apologies. I don't see it.

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    Apologies. I don't see it.
    the 5th reads:
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    You say:
    My only point is to either require all law breakers to inform neighbors or in the specific case of where the criminal is required to register and inform neighbors,
    which contradicts,
    nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself,

    that those falsely accusing of such crimes ALSO be required to register and inform neighbors of the type of person they are. contradicts,
    nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;


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    Quote Quote by: SoylentGreen View Post
    the 5th reads:
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    You say:


    which contradicts,
    nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself,


    nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
    After due process. Once the perjury has been established. The sentence phase of a trial is where my points come into play. That being the person bearing false witness to be punished as would have been the one so accused if he had been found guilty. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs...0&ChapterID=55
    (730 ILCS 152/120)
    Sec. 120. Community notification of sex offenders.
    (a) The sheriff of the county, except Cook County, shall disclose to the following the name, address, date of birth, place of employment, school attended, e-mail addresses, instant messaging identities, chat room identities, other Internet communications identities, all Uniform Resource Locators (URLs) registered or used by the sex offender, all blogs and other Internet sites maintained by the sex offender or to which the sex offender has uploaded any content or posted any messages or information, and offense or adjudication of all sex offenders required to register under Section 3 of the Sex Offender Registration Act:


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    The reason for Community notification of sex offenders is the proven recidivism rate among sexual predators. Thus they continue to be a danger to the community after being released from prison.

    No such proof has been offered of the continuing danger by those who commit perjury, so the need for Community notification does not exist.


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