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    Abortion based on sex of the child

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    Why not?

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    While I personally would never consider gender to be a sensible reason for getting an abortion (and acknowledging I'll never be in a position to make that decision), legal abortions don't, as far as I know, require a woman to state the reason she's seeking one. If the gender of her child is for some reason important to her then she's free to act on that, just like some women will seek an abortion for a child diagnosed with a life threatening or terminal illness while others will decide to give birth to a child in that condition.



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    Quote Quote by: Jack View Post
    While I personally would never consider gender to be a sensible reason for getting an abortion (and acknowledging I'll never be in a position to make that decision), legal abortions don't, as far as I know, require a woman to state the reason she's seeking one. If the gender of her child is for some reason important to her then she's free to act on that, just like some women will seek an abortion for a child diagnosed with a life threatening or terminal illness while others will decide to give birth to a child in that condition.
    I believe this is the position in the UK as well.

    I'm pro-choice, but I don't think abortion should be encouraged for such a superfluous reason. Abortion should be a last resort for failed contraceptives or genetic defects, not any other reason.


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    Quote Quote by: Apeman81 View Post
    What say you?
    The real question should be what does it matter to you (or anyone for that matter) if it isn't your child. A non issue, though contreversial, trivial to the banes of our society.


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    Wondered when you'd catch on to the topic.

    Survival of the species may rest with the diversity that comes from individuals directing their own evolution on a whim even. Would a diverse or homogenous species be more apt to survive an extinction type of event? I think diversity.

    The risk of self-directed evolution? Techniques like PGD (Preimplantation Genetic Diagnosis) being so expensive that only the rich may participate for better or worse in the experiment that may foster Eloi/Morlock types of class distinctions. A stretch surely that would be way down the line. Breast cancer might be eradicated in the families of those who could afford the PGD procedure.

    Yes, with PGD available to gender select the undesired embryos are flushed.

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    Wondered when you'd catch on to the topic.
    Survival of the species may rest with the diversity that
    comes from individuals directing their own evolution on a whim
    even.
    For me it's more of an individual decision than something in a society or family. I wouldn't make the decision myself. In fact, I literally couldn't as I am a man.

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    Quote Quote by: Apeman81 View Post
    What say you?
    Aborting a child based on its sex is probably the stupidest thing I've heard of.

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    Quote Quote by: Dieval View Post
    Aborting a child based on its sex is probably the stupidest thing I've heard of.
    I think aborting them because one's worried about their sexuality (them being gay) is stupidest thing I've heard.

    Couples going through in -vitro fertilization cull embryos based on their gender.

    Gender Selection for Medical Reasons

    When gender selection is used to prevent a genetic disease, the process is called "medical gender selection." Some diseases, so called "sex-linked diseases," are inherited via the mother but only male offspring are affected by them (muscular dystrophy, hemophilia, etc.); In other cases, conditions are more severely expressed in one gender (Fragile X syndrome, autism in males, etc.) than the other. Medical reasons for gender selection can, however, also be psychological: a single female may feel better equipped having a daughter than a son; parents who lost a child may feel a strong need for a child of the same gender.
    http://www.centerforhumanreprod.com/...selection.html

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    Quote Quote by: Maryjane View Post
    I think aborting them because one's worried about their sexuality (them being gay) is stupidest thing I've heard.
    I didn't know that was what we were talking about or that it could be determined prior to birth...

    Quote Quote by: Maryjane View Post
    Couples going through in -vitro fertilization cull embryos based on their gender.



    http://www.centerforhumanreprod.com/...selection.html
    That's still a bit different than just outright aborting a child based on it's sex.

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    That's still a bit different than just outright aborting a child based on it's sex.
    Title of the OP:

    Should a person be able to abort their child based upon gender?

    Is it different? Does that change your original answer?

    Aborting a child based on its sex is probably the stupidest thing I've heard of.


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    If women have the rights to have abortions then they should just be able to go and get one, without having to explain why they want it.

    Why does race even have to be a factor in this? Women get abortions all the time because they simply just don't want a child. Do I or a lot of people think that's a good reason? No, but it's their body and it's their choice frankly.


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