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    Quote Quote by: JimmyNic View Post
    It was indeed a comparison of women to female dogs, also having connotations of promiscuity. It's long worn out its old definition, as I'm sure anyone could tell you, and now can be used to describe any stuck up or otherwise irksome woman, or can be used against either sex if they have a habit of spreading malicious gossip.

    I don't really hold with this attitude that because a swear word is used predominantly against men or women that it is sexist. Men swear more than women and yet there are far more swear words for men than for women (dick, prick, cock, wanker, tosser, bastard, motherfucker) and swear words referencing females can be used against men more readily than their counterparts (bitch, twat, cunt). Indeed it is far more acceptable to swear at a man than at a woman, although swearing is more acceptable in men than in women. Swings and roundabouts, I guess.
    It doesn't matter. "Bitch" is used to describe "weak" female behavior. It's just as bad when applied to men, as it gives them the "you're weak like a female" description.

    Also, most women would take offense to being called a "bitch", whereas most men wouldn't care if they were called "dick" or whatever.


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    Also, most women would take offense to being called a "bitch"
    Really?

    Guess I'll have to do it more often then. This PC culture is a real twat.

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    Quote Quote by: Angry Citizen View Post
    Really?

    Guess I'll have to do it more often then. This PC culture is a real twat.
    "PC" my ass. It's about fighting sexism.


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    Quote Quote by: Dan74 View Post
    "PC" my ass. It's about fighting sexism.
    My biggest problem with my major is that only 20% of the modern graduating class is female. Go be Don Quixote with someone else - I'm not your guy.

    This again lets me make a great point about people fighting sexism/racism/etc. They're misguided - not in intention but in method. They see the use of words like "bitch" to be a cause more worthy of their efforts than actually doing something about real, honest-to-god sexism. Sexism is: The aforementioned graduating classes be 80% sausage-fests; sexism is not: Saying one specific female is unable to do engineering, of which there are many (just as there are many males who are unable to do engineering). Sexism is: More males running for political office than females; sexism is not: Calling a female politician a bitch. Gain some perspective.

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    Yes, because a college male is one to define what sexism is and is not.

    Feminism isn't some hipster liberal movement. It's a real struggle against gender discrimination.


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    Quote Quote by: Dan74 View Post
    It doesn't matter. "Bitch" is used to describe "weak" female behavior. It's just as bad when applied to men, as it gives them the "you're weak like a female" description.

    Also, most women would take offense to being called a "bitch", whereas most men wouldn't care if they were called "dick" or whatever.
    I have to wonder if you've ever heard someone call a woman a bitch before. Perhaps things are different in New Jersey, but I'd say a woman is far more likely to be called a bitch for assertive, aggressive masculine behaviour. Against men the connotation can vary from them being gossipy to them being a pussy, or adhering to feminine traits. Yes, there is something ironic about the same term being used to describe the opposite characteristics in the opposite genders, but sexist it ain't.

    Quote Quote by: Dan74 View Post
    "PC" my ass. It's about fighting sexism.
    I think you'll find women care more about the pay gap than they do about what men do or don't call them.

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    Yes, because a college male is one to define what sexism is and is not.
    Man attacking sexism says something sexist. I think we're gonna need to get the irony brigade on the line...

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    Feminism isn't some hipster liberal movement. It's a real struggle against gender discrimination.
    It is a real struggle, but what you are arguing for is not part of that real struggle, which is what makes you look like a bandwagon jumping hipster.


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    Quote Quote by: JimmyNic View Post
    I have to wonder if you've ever heard someone call a woman a bitch before. Perhaps things are different in New Jersey, but I'd say a woman is far more likely to be called a bitch for assertive, aggressive masculine behaviour. Against men the connotation can vary from them being gossipy to them being a pussy, or adhering to feminine traits. Yes, there is something ironic about the same term being used to describe the opposite characteristics in the opposite genders, but sexist it ain't.
    Again, since it is used primarily to insult women, it is a sexist term. Not much different than "nigger" or "gook" or what have you.


    I think you'll find women care more about the pay gap than they do about what men do or don't call them.
    No shit. How is that relevant?


    Man attacking sexism says something sexist. I think we're gonna need to get the irony brigade on the line...
    I'm not the one who invented these ideas. Also, there are men within the feminist movement.


    It is a real struggle, but what you are arguing for is not part of that real struggle, which is what makes you look like a bandwagon jumping hipster.
    It is a part of the struggle, as almost any feminist opposes it. Again, it's not like the feminist movement consists entirely of changing terminology.


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    Also, there are men within the feminist movement.
    But most don't know WTF they're talking about because, y'know, they're men.

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    Quote Quote by: Angry Citizen View Post
    But most don't know WTF they're talking about because, y'know, they're men.
    Isn't that pretty much like saying that whites can't have an opinion about racism because, y'know, we're white, or that atheists don't know WTF they're talking about because, y'know, they're not theists. You mean no one is able to study a subject and get to know enough about it to hold an educated opinion, because they aren't a member of the primary group affected by that subject?



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    Quote Quote by: Jack View Post
    Isn't that pretty much like saying that whites can't have an opinion about racism because, y'know, we're white, or that atheists don't know WTF they're talking about because, y'know, they're not theists. You mean no one is able to study a subject and get to know enough about it to hold an educated opinion, because they aren't a member of the primary group affected by that subject?
    My point exactly. Reading the rest of the thread should put my post in its appropriate mocking light. Per Dan:

    Yes, because a college male is one to define what sexism is and is not.


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    Well, since the topic has turned to name calling, try as I might, I'll never understand Wiggers. They must be confusing as hell to blacks.

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    Quote Quote by: Angry Citizen View Post
    Well gee, I wonder why. Could it be because immigrants often arrive poor as dirt that they continue to be poor as dirt? Capitalism at its finest. No racism need apply.
    How do you account for the income disparity between sexs, and where do black people fit into this 'its coz their immigrants' narrative? The slave trade was abolished in 1807 not 2007.

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