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    Online privacy in the age of Twitter

    "In the age of Twitter, how much control do you have over your own words? Authorities are trying to use an Occupy protester's tweets against him in court, but Twitter's fighting back in a case that raises big questions about online privacy."
    http://gawker.com/5908692/why-a-figh...o-your-privacy

    What are your thoughts regarding online privacy, in light of events like this?

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    Be mindful of what you say when you're broadcasting your thoughts......anything you say can and will be used against you..

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    There are few if any guarantees of privacy on the Internet. Even posting anonymously or using a pseudonym is no guarantee.



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    I think social media occupies a space between the private and public domain, and the law has yet to catch up. In fact the law has yet to catch up with the consequences of the internet in general, so we can expect the next few years to be filled with cases like this.


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    By definition, using Twitter is a broadcast. You don't stand on a park bench and shout your deepest, darkest secrets to the world if you're concerned about privacy. How the OWS idiots could not understand that is beyond me.

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    Quote Quote by: JimmyNic View Post
    I think social media occupies a space between the private and public domain, and the law has yet to catch up. In fact the law has yet to catch up with the consequences of the internet in general, so we can expect the next few years to be filled with cases like this.
    I agree with everyone's thoughts in this post so far. It is clear that legislation and regulation will try and catch up and this will in all likelihood cause more problems than it solves, as it usually does, but I wonder what the social ramifications will be in the future because of the issue of privacy. How will it change how we feel about ourselves in the scrutiny of the public eye in the long run? Will it result in a liberation or a isolation.

    When I first got online I posted on forums like this, posting my real full name, my address and telephone number. People think that is crazy, but all of this information is as easily available as the nearest telephone book, or these days, the same online anyway.

    I think what the real issue is is we are afraid to voice our opinions, and make mistakes or learn in a public arena. Maybe that will change.

    The results of my inclusion of that personal information was that when some people, probably adolescents, were pissed that I was able to demonstrate them as being wrong would threaten my life. This happened 3 or four times. I called their bluff: "bring it on." I also got 2 or three postcards through the mail which people I knew online would send to confirm my address. I would read the postcards off to confirm. The most annoying thing that happened was that someone seemed to have some sort of program that would call be at an ungodly hour every day. I switched the ringer off.

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    Quote Quote by: The Theist View Post
    The results of my inclusion of that personal information was that when some people, probably adolescents, were pissed that I was able to demonstrate them as being wrong would threaten my life. This happened 3 or four times. I called their bluff: "bring it on." I also got 2 or three postcards through the mail which people I knew online would send to confirm my address. I would read the postcards off to confirm. The most annoying thing that happened was that someone seemed to have some sort of program that would call be at an ungodly hour every day. I switched the ringer off.
    I had that happen once, some guy threatened my life online, I knew where he lived and he was about 15 miles from me. So I e-mailed him my address and told him to come get me. Funny, he had lots of excuses but never ever showed up.

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    How the OWS idiots....
    'nuff said...

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    I agree with everyone's thoughts in this post so far. It is clear that legislation and regulation will try and catch up and this will in all likelihood cause more problems than it solves, as it usually does, but I wonder what the social ramifications will be in the future because of the issue of privacy. How will it change how we feel about ourselves in the scrutiny of the public eye in the long run? Will it result in a liberation or a isolation.

    When I first got online I posted on forums like this, posting my real full name, my address and telephone number. People think that is crazy, but all of this information is as easily available as the nearest telephone book, or these days, the same online anyway.

    I think what the real issue is is we are afraid to voice our opinions, and make mistakes or learn in a public arena. Maybe that will change.

    The results of my inclusion of that personal information was that when some people, probably adolescents, were pissed that I was able to demonstrate them as being wrong would threaten my life. This happened 3 or four times. I called their bluff: "bring it on." I also got 2 or three postcards through the mail which people I knew online would send to confirm my address. I would read the postcards off to confirm. The most annoying thing that happened was that someone seemed to have some sort of program that would call be at an ungodly hour every day. I switched the ringer off.
    Nowadays identity theft is far to common and I wouldn't want to take a chance putting my information out to the public.

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    Quote Quote by: Dieval View Post
    'nuff said...
    If this had been the same thing with conservatives, it would have been conservative idiots. However, OWS seems to produce a hell of a lot of idiots for a movement their size.

    Nowadays identity theft is far to common and I wouldn't want to take a chance putting my information out to the public.
    Granted, although in my example, I did it close to 20 years ago when identity theft was very rare, plus I would never post my personal information out in public view, it was done through e-mail. I'm in the phone book, people could find me if they really wanted to, and there isn't much you can do with just an address.

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    Some of the people you dismiss as "idiots" while rights to a free press and of free expression are systematically being widdled away:
    "Under cover of the night around twelve police cars stopped five journalists when they were heading back to where they are staying in Chicago during the NATO summit. All five have been covering protests against the NATO summit for the past few days. The five journalists included Luke Rudkowksi, who streams as @Lukewearechange, Tim Pool, who streams as @Timcast, Jeoff Shively (@Jiraffa), Dustin & Jess. They are known for their work livestreaming and tweeting out regular coverage of Occupy protests."
    http://occupylosangelesnews.org/blog/?p=1092

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    Quote Quote by: grandpa View Post
    "In the age of Twitter, how much control do you have over your own words? Authorities are trying to use an Occupy protester's tweets against him in court, but Twitter's fighting back in a case that raises big questions about online privacy."
    http://gawker.com/5908692/why-a-figh...o-your-privacy

    What are your thoughts regarding online privacy, in light of events like this?

    Grandpa h.
    If WikiLeaks has the right to steal government documents and broadcast them on the internet "for public consumption," doesn't anybody (government, business, You) have the right use any information flowing on the Web for legal purposes? Free exchange of ideas and information--isn't that the internet's promise?

    I don't know--if someone tweets their address and people show up at their door, only they are to blame.

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    Quote Quote by: grandpa View Post
    Some of the people you dismiss as "idiots" while rights to a free press and of free expression are systematically being widdled away:
    "Under cover of the night around twelve police cars stopped five journalists when they were heading back to where they are staying in Chicago during the NATO summit. All five have been covering protests against the NATO summit for the past few days. The five journalists included Luke Rudkowksi, who streams as @Lukewearechange, Tim Pool, who streams as @Timcast, Jeoff Shively (@Jiraffa), Dustin & Jess. They are known for their work livestreaming and tweeting out regular coverage of Occupy protests."
    http://occupylosangelesnews.org/blog/?p=1092

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    Now Tweeters are considered "journalists"?

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