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tinybear · Jan 25, 2005, 06:01 am

They are a form of child abuse, don't you think? Why do parents permit or even actively encourage them? Any views?

faith · Jan 25, 2005, 06:20 am

its all about 'my child is better than your child' quite sad really i think :)

tinybear · Jan 25, 2005, 09:31 am

Yeah, sort of treating kids like gladiators.

**Pooeypants** · Jan 25, 2005, 10:04 am

Except they won't be exposed to blades and sharpen sticks...

Gorgo · Jan 25, 2005, 10:32 am

I don't know how you can make those kinds of blanket statements, especially with nothing to back it up. One can make the statement that little league is a form of child abuse.

tinybear · Jan 25, 2005, 10:53 am

Which it is, isn't it?

Gorgo · Jan 25, 2005, 12:36 pm

OF COURSE it is, but that's beside the point.

Suburbanite · Jan 25, 2005, 01:31 pm

Its for gay dads.

Songbird · Jan 25, 2005, 05:06 pm

http://www.bravotv.com/Showbiz_Moms_...as/About.shtml

Did anyone see this documentary? I only saw a little bit of it when it was on, but it made me sick. I am strongly opposed to parents dragging their kids to beauty pagents, or any kind of performing related competition. Stage moms should be shipped off to timbuctoo

Catch 22 · Jan 25, 2005, 05:53 pm

hehe yeah I agree. I’m of the opinion that when you have kids you should give them as little organized activity as possible and just give them the means to have fun and explore their world. Parents are spending too much time living vicariously through their children and trying to put tons of meaningless structure in their lives.

Paavo · Feb 1, 2005, 09:00 am

Saying "your physical appearance is your best asset" to a child (especially a little girl) is horrible parenting. It should never happen -- not only in sick, twisted "pageants" -- but in any other situation.
I think this shows that we live in a time where not only children are being raised by corrupting television (+ every other opinion/value-shaping media), but that we have parents raised by that same (...if escalating in moral corruption) crap with its' upside-down moral values and artificial role models.

Kids (again, especially girls) are forced to mature earlier on in life, ever more increasingly, with their role models being nothing but talentless whores. My 11 year old niece wears panties with slogans like "sweet stuff," and her mother (that'd be my sister) doesn't like it, but is afraid of being labeled "old fashioned" or "a nazi parent" if she speaks out, or god forbid, tells her daughter not to do something that every other kid is doing.

We should let our daughters be kids while they ARE kids, instead of approving of prostitutes like Christina Aguilera or Britney Spears to be their role models at the age of 8!

Jan 25, 2005, 06:01 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,002	Beauty Pageants For Kids & Teens They are a form of child abuse, don't you think? Why do parents permit or even actively encourage them? Any views?

Jan 25, 2005, 06:20 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
faith Molten Ash Location: uk Posts: 128	its all about 'my child is better than your child' quite sad really i think :) Live and love for today! There may be no tomorrow!

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Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,541	Except they won't be exposed to blades and sharpen sticks... War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

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Songbird Molten Ash Location: NJ Posts: 26	http://www.bravotv.com/Showbiz_Moms_...as/About.shtml Did anyone see this documentary? I only saw a little bit of it when it was on, but it made me sick. I am strongly opposed to parents dragging their kids to beauty pagents, or any kind of performing related competition. Stage moms should be shipped off to timbuctoo "They say these times are not the best of times, but they're the only times I've ever known." ~Billy Joel

Jan 25, 2005, 05:53 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Catch 22 Igneous Magma Location: New York Posts: 374	hehe yeah I agree. I’m of the opinion that when you have kids you should give them as little organized activity as possible and just give them the means to have fun and explore their world. Parents are spending too much time living vicariously through their children and trying to put tons of meaningless structure in their lives. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, militarism and economic exploitation are incapable of being conquered Martin Luther King Jr.

Jan 25, 2005, 09:31 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,002	Yeah, sort of treating kids like gladiators.

Jan 25, 2005, 10:32 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	I don't know how you can make those kinds of blanket statements, especially with nothing to back it up. One can make the statement that little league is a form of child abuse.

Jan 25, 2005, 10:53 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,002	Which it is, isn't it?

Jan 25, 2005, 12:36 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	OF COURSE it is, but that's beside the point.

Jan 25, 2005, 01:31 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	Its for gay dads.

Feb 1, 2005, 09:00 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
Paavo Location: Finland Posts: 712	Saying "your physical appearance is your best asset" to a child (especially a little girl) is horrible parenting. It should never happen -- not only in sick, twisted "pageants" -- but in any other situation. I think this shows that we live in a time where not only children are being raised by corrupting television (+ every other opinion/value-shaping media), but that we have parents raised by that same (...if escalating in moral corruption) crap with its' upside-down moral values and artificial role models. Kids (again, especially girls) are forced to mature earlier on in life, ever more increasingly, with their role models being nothing but talentless whores. My 11 year old niece wears panties with slogans like "sweet stuff," and her mother (that'd be my sister) doesn't like it, but is afraid of being labeled "old fashioned" or "a nazi parent" if she speaks out, or god forbid, tells her daughter not to do something that every other kid is doing. We should let our daughters be kids while they ARE kids, instead of approving of prostitutes like Christina Aguilera or Britney Spears to be their role models at the age of 8! Last edited by Paavo; Feb 1, 2005 at 09:02 am.