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Old Jan 20, 2005, 11:19 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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MM's armed bodyguard? Ironic?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144921,00.html

What? What was the uberliberal's bodyguard doing with a firearm? People don't use guns for defense, they use them for hunting and violence only. You'd think Michael Moore, of all people, would know that.
Hypocrite.

What do you all think of this? I suspect a few of you are pro-gun.


Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it?
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224
Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

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Old Jan 21, 2005, 12:04 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Once again, Moore proves that the lives of the Elite are worth more than those of Paeons like us...in his mind, anyway. It's no secret that many of the "big wheels" in the Victim Disarmament movement are armed themselves; Diane Feinstein, for example, carries a .38 revolver.
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Old Jan 21, 2005, 12:06 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah I heard about that too. Feinstein, "If I could ban all guns I would" is packing. Heh, at least I live in Jesusland, where defending yourself isn't denied the proles.


Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it?
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Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!
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Old Jan 21, 2005, 09:14 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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"Guns for me, but not for thee" eh.

*shrugs* Moore couldn't do a better job of making left-wingers look bad if he were getting his script from Karl Rove himself. And yet the Democrats so willingly embrace the man who is their destroyer.

Wierd.
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Old Jan 21, 2005, 03:25 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Pretty ironic, I must admit. Screw NY.
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Old Jan 22, 2005, 04:08 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Looking at the actions of Michael Moore, it would appear that he now considers himself as one of the "Elite".

That's MISTER Moore to you peons.


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Old Jan 22, 2005, 08:00 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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You mean, "That's Monsieur Moore, to you peons."


Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it?
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Old Jan 23, 2005, 07:37 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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moore has trophies for his shooting prowess, according to his doco.

i don't think he's anti-gun, just anti-gun culture. a licensed security guard is not the target of his activism.


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Old Jan 23, 2005, 09:45 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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moore has trophies for his shooting prowess, according to his doco.

i don't think he's anti-gun, just anti-gun culture. a licensed security guard is not the target of his activism.
He's anti-gun. Why else make a film that even mentions Columbine? The murders in that and similar slaughters kill less people than cops shooting the wrong person but it's so important that he cover a phenomina less common bathtub drownings. Why else slander the NRA and Charleton Heston? Why else say that he wants to have guns banned? MM is simply another hater of the peons, a Democratic sellout who only made an informative film when he got someone else to do all the work first.
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Old Jan 23, 2005, 10:16 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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While I think it's funny seeing people talk about Moore who get their info from extreme right-wing blogs and not from watching the movies, Moore is hardly left-wing. He supported right-wing criminals like Wes Clarke and Bill Clinton.

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"Guns for me, but not for thee" eh.

*shrugs* Moore couldn't do a better job of making left-wingers look bad if he were getting his script from Karl Rove himself. And yet the Democrats so willingly embrace the man who is their destroyer.

Wierd.
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Old Jan 23, 2005, 11:43 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Moore is hardly left-wing. He supported right-wing criminals like Wes Clarke and Bill Clinton.
Dude, come on....these anomalies don't change anything. I own most of Moore's work. I don't get my info on him from "right wing blogs". I take him at his word. He has done good work, and he has done HORRIBLE work. But he calls himself left wing and liberal, Gorgo. I get that from all the book tour stops he makes, not from any blog. And he bashed Clinton (putting himself to the left him) in his book Stupid White Men. I can't explain his support of Nazi, I mean Nato Commander Clarke (I think it's because Clarke made a shout out to him when he got asked about Moore...political pandering, in other words).
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Old Jan 23, 2005, 12:17 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Again, liberals today are hardly left-wing. Left of extremists like Bush maybe.
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Old Jan 23, 2005, 12:27 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Again, liberals today are hardly left-wing. Left of extremists like Bush maybe.
I think the paradigm has long since fallen apart. Moore is a fascist control-freak, just like Bush. They are both extremists.

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Old Jan 23, 2005, 01:11 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Ah yes, hypocracy at its best.


Much like our former Mayor attempting ti disarm all the citizns of our fair city, while walking around packing himself.


When that failed, he tryed to pass ammunitioin restriction fo everybody living withing the city limits.


All the while, this story never got any national media attention because they were too busy worrying about poor Elian Gonzalas.


Who needs constitutional rights when there are so many less fortunate than ourselfs that we could be worrying about?
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Old Jan 24, 2005, 08:07 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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I didn't see anything in the movie that told me that Moore was anti-gun. The movie was confusing, but there was nothing that left me with that idea. Maybe pro-gun registration.
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Old Jan 24, 2005, 08:13 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Gorgo, Pro-registration is Anti-gun. Historically, every single scheme for the registration of weapons, without exception, has led to confiscation. This is despite the promises ( at the time of registration ) that such would never be the case.
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Old Jan 25, 2005, 06:54 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Right. Those that register cars are anti-car. Very good. No, someone who thinks that guns should be registered, and I don't know Moore's position on this, is not being hypocritical by having a bodyguard, who presumably has a legal gun.
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Old Jan 25, 2005, 07:50 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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In Bowling for Columbine, I think Michael Moore establishes that he is a bit of gun enthusiast as he'd grown up in Michigan etc etc.


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Old Jan 25, 2005, 10:30 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Red Herring, Gorgo. There isn't a history of car-registration leading to confiscation. There is such a history with firearms. Furthermore, it's a remarkeably consistant one.

Pooey:
All that MM "establishes" in BFC is that he's a lying twit.
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He purchased his "Lifetime Membership" just before shooting the film, specifically so that he could say "Look, I'm not anti-gun, I'm a member of the NRA!" His publicly-stated desires for Victim Disarmament, however, leave no doubt as to his true desires.
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Old Jan 25, 2005, 11:08 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah. Like I said. Right wing nonsense.
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