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**Chris** · Dec 31, 2004, 03:29 pm

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So what happened to the term "binding contract" anyway, and what happened to "equality" of the sexes? I strongly doubt any judge would side with a man if he presented the exact same case.

Exactly my question, thank you Scrib.

That is the reason this has pissed me off a bit.

...Kate · Dec 31, 2004, 03:32 pm

Well, alimony is mostly outdated, I'd say, in those marriages where both partners contribute 50-50 to the finances of the marriage.

But, in some marriages it's 100% financial contribution and 100% domestic engineering contribution, leaving one party out in the cold if the financial contributor takes a hike ... best suited to take on another 100% domestic engineering job, it's hard (maybe impossible) for the domestic engnineering partner to make a go of it in the work world ... without some support, ... and maybe it's temporary support until s/he can get it together.

Starboy · Dec 31, 2004, 03:32 pm

I think that alimony is almost outdated. I am pretty sure that in most states that if both spouses work then there is no alimony. I guess it boils down to this, if you get married and you want your wife to stay at home and that is a decision that you have both made and her economic earning power suffers then you share in some of the damage cause by that choice. I would suggest that any couple getting married work that out prior to the wedding and if there is doubt that either party can be trusted in the decision then do not get married or write a better prenup.

Starboy

**Chris** · Dec 31, 2004, 03:41 pm

Yeah but what about those cases where the husband has an engineering degree from MIT and the wife has a Bachelor's degree in Environmental services, they have 1 kid and then the mom quits her job to look after baby. Then when the kid turns 5 they get a divorce and the mom- not having worked for 5+ years is out of a job, 100% qualified to get a job, but out of a job.

My point was that women are pretty much 100% equal to men now. This isn't the days of 1980 and the movie "9 to 5"

...Kate · Dec 31, 2004, 03:43 pm

Show me those paychecks, and the overhead expenses for the split households, in your scenario, Chris. Then you'll see some of the raw data for the poverty figures I alluded to earlier.

[edit] but in your defense, I picture a "Bon Bon Barbie" who just let it all go ... her looks, and her brains, and then Ken is stuck with this Blob who just spends the paycheck.

Of course he's going to work late, with his secretary, or someone else with a recognizable shape and personality.

Still ... what sort of "negotiations" led to this crazy situation?

Starboy · Dec 31, 2004, 03:46 pm

Until the laws change any couple that does not work such things out before they get married are dang fools. I myself will never get married again unless I have much more to gain than loose. In that case my spouse to be will be the dang fool because I will not sign a prenup. Not that I expect any takers under that scenario.

Starboy

Vee · Jan 2, 2005, 07:00 am

okay my apologies I had partner support and child support roled into the one concept.
Is it outdated I don't know as I am not privy to the variables that may make it viable.

Dec 31, 2004, 03:43 pm	#25 (permalink) (top)
...Kate Igneous Magma Location: United States, CST Posts: 393	Show me those paychecks, and the overhead expenses for the split households, in your scenario, Chris. Then you'll see some of the raw data for the poverty figures I alluded to earlier. [edit] but in your defense, I picture a "Bon Bon Barbie" who just let it all go ... her looks, and her brains, and then Ken is stuck with this Blob who just spends the paycheck. Of course he's going to work late, with his secretary, or someone else with a recognizable shape and personality. Still ... what sort of "negotiations" led to this crazy situation? Last edited by ...Kate; Dec 31, 2004 at 03:46 pm.

Dec 31, 2004, 03:46 pm	#26 (permalink) (top)
Starboy BANNED: Repeated insults Posts: 4,828	Until the laws change any couple that does not work such things out before they get married are dang fools. I myself will never get married again unless I have much more to gain than loose. In that case my spouse to be will be the dang fool because I will not sign a prenup. Not that I expect any takers under that scenario. Starboy Last edited by Starboy; Dec 31, 2004 at 03:49 pm.

Jan 2, 2005, 07:00 am	#27 (permalink) (top)
Vee Igneous Magma Posts: 370	okay my apologies I had partner support and child support roled into the one concept. Is it outdated I don't know as I am not privy to the variables that may make it viable. Australian Political Discussion Site Aussies: Welcome to the Rudd Regime Yanks: Welcome to Hell Now Purgatory. Others: G'day mate.

Dec 31, 2004, 03:32 pm	#22 (permalink) (top)
...Kate Igneous Magma Location: United States, CST Posts: 393	Well, alimony is mostly outdated, I'd say, in those marriages where both partners contribute 50-50 to the finances of the marriage. But, in some marriages it's 100% financial contribution and 100% domestic engineering contribution, leaving one party out in the cold if the financial contributor takes a hike ... best suited to take on another 100% domestic engineering job, it's hard (maybe impossible) for the domestic engnineering partner to make a go of it in the work world ... without some support, ... and maybe it's temporary support until s/he can get it together.

Dec 31, 2004, 03:32 pm	#23 (permalink) (top)
Starboy BANNED: Repeated insults Posts: 4,828	I think that alimony is almost outdated. I am pretty sure that in most states that if both spouses work then there is no alimony. I guess it boils down to this, if you get married and you want your wife to stay at home and that is a decision that you have both made and her economic earning power suffers then you share in some of the damage cause by that choice. I would suggest that any couple getting married work that out prior to the wedding and if there is doubt that either party can be trusted in the decision then do not get married or write a better prenup. Starboy

Dec 31, 2004, 03:41 pm	#24 (permalink) (top)
Chris Gamma-ray burst Location: Nashville Posts: 6,403	Yeah but what about those cases where the husband has an engineering degree from MIT and the wife has a Bachelor's degree in Environmental services, they have 1 kid and then the mom quits her job to look after baby. Then when the kid turns 5 they get a divorce and the mom- not having worked for 5+ years is out of a job, 100% qualified to get a job, but out of a job. My point was that women are pretty much 100% equal to men now. This isn't the days of 1980 and the movie "9 to 5"