Homosexual Marriage

[jai_lyn7249]

inthe eyes of the world oppisite sex marriages are normal.not saying that gays are odd
but what do you see most of the time man and women or man and man?????

[Prometheus]

Quote by: Cephus You don't get out much, do you? Just go to the mall and watch people. Most of the teenagers act like they're getting ready for an orgy. I've lost count of how many down-the-throat grope-a-thons I see in public places on a regular basis and I think that most people are. A lot of kids do it on purpose to 'freak the mundanes'. They're out there trying to offend people. I've seen both gay and straight couples doing the same thing. Has nothing to do with tolerance, has to do with common sense and decorum, both of which have taken a nosedive in recent years.

But that's not flaunting thier sexuality. They are not saying "look - i'm hetero! If you don't like that f**k you!". They are only saying "I'm an insecure adolesent who needs to publically display my ability to obtain sex to boost my self esteem and feel good about myself".

[Cephus]

There was a time when, in the eyes of the world, blacks were sub-human. Want to go back to that time? Or when interracial marriages were evil. Anyone? Or when eating specific foods on Friday could get you lynched in some areas.

There's this thing in the US called equal treatment under the law. Do try to look it up.

[Prometheus]

I'm sorry, I don't see where you were going with that comment. Please explain.

[Cephus]

Quote by: Prometheus I'm sorry, I don't see where you were going with that comment. Please explain.

See four posts up.

[Prometheus]

O yah - agreed. Status quoe (sic) dosen't garentee that it is OK>

[belverron]

I wish more gay people would flaunt their sexuality. Then I could figure out who the hell I'm supposed to be able to ask out. But that's just my take on it.... Honestly, I don't try to be flambuoyant, but I don't hide it, either, and if I feel like saying something about it I do. And if there's an attractive guy sitting next to me, and there's the slightest chance he's gay, I'm damned well going to say something to get the message across.

Or do you think all gay people should have to go to special establishments to find other gay people to date?

[Prometheus]

Quote by: belverron I wish more gay people would flaunt their sexuality. Then I could figure out who the hell I'm supposed to be able to ask out. But that's just my take on it.... Honestly, I don't try to be flambuoyant, but I don't hide it, either, and if I feel like saying something about it I do. And if there's an attractive guy sitting next to me, and there's the slightest chance he's gay, I'm damned well going to say something to get the message across. Or do you think all gay people should have to go to special establishments to find other gay people to date?

Yah. Those damn fags should also wear tracker collars so we can keep tabs on them and make sure they aren't molesting anyone or any of the other stuff gays do. This is america, and I have the right not to see two guys kissing. I mean, that's just not right. Where do you get this stupid idea of gay rights? Anyone that does things that sinfull must be an animal with no conscience and has no rights.

Gay parades - hah - the only parades the gays should have is a parade to a concentration camp. I bet you didn't know that all of the terrorists in the 9/11 attacks were gay. They kept that secret because the gays threatened to revolt and give everyone AIDS if the government didn't cover it up. Because of the homosexual attack on the USA we should herd them into concentration camps as soon as possible We can probably reuse the ones we put those damn japs in. While we have them in the camps we should probably bombard them with naked women and straight porn to fix that problem in thier brains.

[jai_lyn7249]

prometheus..............
i agree alittle bit on what you are saying..... but loading them into concentration camps could never cure them they are just sick.... chemical imbalances can never be changed....LOL

[belverron]

Prometheus... if you can honestly tell me you don't think he's serious I can retain some shred of faith in humanity.

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: jai_lyn7249 prometheus.............. i agree alittle bit on what you are saying..... but loading them into concentration camps could never cure them they are just sick.... chemical imbalances can never be changed....LOL

Can't you tell irony when you see it, jai? This thread isn't about homos anyway. It's about them marrying. Like 'em or not, the homosexuals are a presence in our world. But it seems that there is a big controversy over gay marriage. Witness a 120 page discussion...

And for all the socially liberal folks who think that they should be marrying, the laws of the states don't allow it and the voters don't want it either. Go figger.

I am thankful for such a response from the volconvo community. This poll has been a big success, huh?

[Prometheus]

I thought you guys knew me better than that. Good grief - lighten up.

I mean, it started off sounding believable, but I though I took it to such a ridiculous extreme that it would be obvious. I guess I should have gotten more outrageous. Maybe suggested casteration.

[belverron]

My post was directed at jai_lyn if you're talking about me at all, Prometheus.

[Jack]

Those damn fags should also wear tracker collars so we can keep tabs on them and make sure they aren't molesting anyone or any of the other stuff gays do.

No, no...it's the punks who are into dog collars and such. Make our's scarves, in nice pastel colors if you please...

[Cephus]

Quote by: belverron I wish more gay people would flaunt their sexuality. Then I could figure out who the hell I'm supposed to be able to ask out. But that's just my take on it.... Honestly, I don't try to be flambuoyant, but I don't hide it, either, and if I feel like saying something about it I do. And if there's an attractive guy sitting next to me, and there's the slightest chance he's gay, I'm damned well going to say something to get the message across.

I never got that. How is it that if a gay person does anything whatsoever that suggests to the world that they're gay, they're flaunting it, but if a straight person does anything to suggest to the world that they're straight, they're not?

The hypocracy is ridiculous.

[Osborn F Enready]

Cephus said:
The hypocracy is ridiculous.

I say:
I agree 100%

If a drug company comes out with a prescription for hypocrisy, it would sell by the BILLIONS.....
Oh wait, they already do, its called sodium pentathol, but only the government administers it at ITS discretion.

[Dirty Name]

Quote by: Cephus There's this thing in the US called equal treatment under the law.

I grow weary of debunking this argument, but here we go again... Cephus, please explain how homosexuals don't have the same marriage rights as heterosexuals.

And please be aware that if you go down this path and attempt to make an argument for equality, then you are going to also have to argue for EVERY form of domestic partnership imaginable - to the point where sexuality isn't even a factor.

Perhaps I could save you some time... rather than argue for equality for gay couples, why not just argue for the elimination of heterosexual marriage benefits? After all, if any two or more people can form a domestic partnership and claim benefits, not only would that be expensive, but wouldn't it also be pointless? If equality is the goal, why not take the least expensive route and simply strip heterosexual couples of the benefits they have?

I await your answer.

[Jack]

you are going to also have to argue for EVERY form of domestic partnership imaginable - to the point where sexuality isn't even a factor.

Why? Your side seems to have no problem arguing for special rights for hetrosexual couples without addressing any other type of union. Why should we have to?

[Dirty Name]

Why? Your side seems to have no problem arguing for special rights for hetrosexual couples without addressing any other type of union. Why should we have to?

I have argued (see preceding 20+ pages) that heterosexual couples are NOT equal to other forms of marriage. Heterosexual marriages are superior in terms of the benefits to society as compared to any other form of marriage. As a result, our society - via our common government - encourages and supports traditional marriage by granting legal recognitions and other benefits.

In addition to the benefits, traditional heterosexual marriage also has a greater need than homosexual marriages - manifested via biological parenthood. And please don't interpret this to strictly mean "procreation," but rather everything that goes into raising a family - including sacrifices made by women who want to have and raise a child in the best possible environment, but who may never actually get pregnant or carry a child to term. Homosexuals will NEVER face the same sacrifices that straight married women face every day in this country - the decision to give up a promising career to raise a family.

At any rate, your notion of equality applies to individuals, not to couples.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Dirty Name I have argued (see preceding 20+ pages) that heterosexual couples are NOT equal to other forms of marriage. Heterosexual marriages are superior in terms of the benefits to society as compared to any other form of marriage. As a result, our society - via our common government - encourages and supports traditional marriage by granting legal recognitions and other benefits. At any rate, your notion of equality applies to individuals, not to couples.

You still fail to accept that the type of behavior you desribe is against the law. The constitution clearly states that taxes shall be levied evenly. Tax deferment is a crime, and if it is government sanctioned crime, it is no more right, or lawful.