Homosexual Marriage

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Quote by: southernbread ass the younger generation i have to say ur wrong, but i would say there is more igornace about gays.

Erm, im a member of the younger generation as well. And I disagree.

if u want to live in this country u should abide by our rules.

What rules? Is homosexuality illegal now? When did this happen?

being married is sacered

There's nothing sacred about being married. You can marry anywhere. And a priest doesn't have to marry a couple. If you would read some of the replies, you would see this..

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Quote by: southernbread um wow, ok look at what u just said, if christians are gay ans want to marry, thats like saying u cant put that guy on death row for murder hes a christian. ok they may claim that there christian but obviously there not. how does that work. IM a white guy, i can say im black all day, doesnt make it true does it. And you can stop them because a "christian" church that would marry two gay people isnt a christian church, thats not my opinion thats a fact. there someother kind of non god church

Why can't gays be Christians be gay now? If you're going to make up some of these fallacies, you might want to prove them.

[southernbread]

Quote by: ??! Erm, im a member of the younger generation as well. And I disagree. ok yes an because u think its alright doesnt prove anything? Me as a man of god think its wrong. God doesnt equal sin What rules? Is homosexuality illegal now? When did this happen? Its not illegal but u cant get married in most states, so why is that? its not that its illegal its that its frowned on. In this country of america it has never had gays marry before so there wasnt any laws its just what happened There's nothing sacred about being married. You can marry anywhere. And a priest doesn't have to marry a couple. If you would read some of the replies, you would see this..

wow, ok To the people who get married for the real reason its sacred. Just because u get married outside of the church doesnt mean that its outside of god. yes u can get married in vegas, but why do people go out of there way to do that? To have a cheaper marriage. If it was such a big deal gays could go to canada and get married and we wouldnt have this argument would we? oh but its not illegal to get married in the states, then why dont they? oh because its not allowed gotcha, i proven my point. im not as a younger generation gonna let these evil ways deter me from doing whats right. Man lays with woman. not man and man. MY kids will know its not right to lay with their own sex because im gonna teach them MORALS. if i make u mad i make u mad but thats what it all comes down too. people living upto what they belive. people arent born gay and they shouldnt have any rights because there gay. that makes no sense what so ever.

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Quote by: southernbread wow, ok To the people who get married for the real reason its sacred. Just because u get married outside of the church doesnt mean that its outside of god.

Sigh. You don't have to be religious to get married. What don't you understand?

oh because its not allowed gotcha, i proven my point. im not as a younger generation gonna let these evil ways deter me from doing whats right. Man lays with woman. not man and man. MY kids will know its not right to lay with their own sex because im gonna teach them MORALS.

You are completely ignorant to information. Do you realize how common homosexuality is in nature? You're making this arguement that homosexuality isn't natural. It is.

people arent born gay and they shouldnt have any rights because there gay. that makes no sense what so ever.

Wait, gays shouldn't have rights now? Why not? They're homo sapiens just like you and I.

[southernbread]

Quote by: ??! Why can't gays be Christians be gay now? If you're going to make up some of these fallacies, you might want to prove them.

well its the opposite. because being gay is against god. let me give u an example. its a guy that works at the cigratte factory but hes out there yelling smokings bad. its a hypocrate, like saying u shouldnt do this and then do it? You see what im saying, true one sin equals another sin but being gay is an everyday choice. u wake up in the morning and u chose to be with that person. Your not sorry for it or you wouldnt do it. Do u ever see a gay couple in ur baptist church? i havent i wonder why that is? oh because we would tell them they need to change there ways. we would love them just the same but at the same time let them know what there doing is wrong. Just as any christian would do when seeing someone living the wrong path. someone needs to wake them up and let them know that god is real and they need him to live...
what u think
SOUTHERNBREAD a southern baptist that doest understand why people are gay

[southernbread]

Quote by: ??! Sigh. You don't have to be religious to get married. What don't you understand? your right but what is getting married anyway? why do we get married by a preacher? hmmm because god is suppose to be in it. You are right some marriages are not with god in them which makes really no sense because a marriage is a thing that god made to bind two souls for as long as we were on earth. You see what i mean? Marriage is a thing from god. and now days people try to make it not about god when in fact he made it. but whatever You are completely ignorant to information. Do you realize how common homosexuality is in nature? You're making this arguement that homosexuality isn't natural. It is. once again that word ignorant. what info am i ignorant too? ok so ur telling me its natural for u want to suck on another guy(please i tried to not be vulgar with this analagy, im being a good boy) where ever does it say it is? sex is for what reason? to make babies aww i think im onto something yes yes i am how about that. thats why we have sex in the first place. I have NEVER wanted to be with another guy so whats ur point? u didnt prove anything at all. apparently ur ignorant to what sex was made for. Wait, gays shouldn't have rights now? Why not? They're homo sapiens just like you and I.

NO NO NO, i said extra rights, they get the same as u and me but im not gonna go out of my way because someone rather flount there gayness. i think they get the same rights as me except for the marraige thing because thats not my place to say yes u can marry , thats between them and god. i wonder what he would say?

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Quote by: southernbread someone needs to wake them up and let them know that god is real and they need him to live...

Wake them up? They're free to express themselves in any way they want to. And you can't stop them.

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I have NEVER wanted to be with another guy so whats ur point? u didnt prove anything at all. apparently ur ignorant to what sex was made for.

My point is this:

Homosexuality is common in various species in nature. Many of these species display homosexual attitudes. Now, many of these species are incapable of rational thought. A beetle, for example, cannot just say, "oh, I like members of the same sex." This leads the my arguement that homosexuality is natural. If species incapable of rational thought have homosexual tendencies, then it is not a choice. Why is it not a choice? Because beetles and other organisms lack rational thinking. So, in essence, homosexuality is completely natural, as seen in nature.

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Quote by: ??! My point is this: Homosexuality is common in various species in nature. Many of these species display homosexual attitudes. Now, many of these species are incapable of rational thought. A beetle, for example, cannot just say, "oh, I like members of the same sex." This leads the my arguement that homosexuality is natural. If species incapable of rational thought have homosexual tendencies, then it is not a choice. Why is it not a choice? Because beetles and other organisms lack rational thinking. So, in essence, homosexuality is completely natural, as seen in nature.

and my point is this.
theres aniamals that have both parts male and female. and yes they do have choices. they can change there sex around to have sex. thats like going up to another guy and he changing into a woman and then we had sex. get it? you need to be more specific on ur thoughts. In nature they dont have sex for pleassure like we do so that would be stupid for them to have sex with each other. Example dogs have only a certain time they have sex, when its going through heat, its the only time they have sex and guess what its NATURAL sex male and female.
thank u good sir, thats a good try i will admit that but if you think homo sex is ok do it in ur closet and dont try to push it on the rest of the world. thats one of the reasons people have problems with it because you try to force us to belive in it and guess what u will never win
southernbread once again gains points for the hetros

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Quote by: southernbread and my point is this. you need to be more specific on ur thoughts.

No, you still don't understand what I'm saying...

In nature they dont have sex for pleassure like we do so that would be stupid for them to have sex with each other.

This just further proves my point. If they don't have sex for pleasure, and they display homosexual tendencies, then it must be natural. It's not a choice..

but if you think homo sex is ok do it in ur closet and dont try to push it on the rest of the world.

Nice strawman...

thats one of the reasons people have problems with it because you try to force us to belive in it and guess what u will never win

I'm not forcing you to believe anything. I'm just trying to clear up some of the bigotry assiociated with homosexuality.

southernbread once again gains points for the hetros

Honestly? Are you five?

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Quote by: ??! No, you still don't understand what I'm saying... no and i guess i never will, how old are u for real? This just further proves my point. If they don't have sex for pleasure, and they display homosexual tendencies, then it must be natural. It's not a choice.. its natural but they change their sex so its not the same thing.. Nice strawman... not quite sure what this means? I'm not forcing you to believe anything. I'm just trying to clear up some of the bigotry assiociated with homosexuality. hmmm yeah its wrong its all cleared up Honestly? Are you five?

and well yeah im five. and im not gonna make this personall... you reading this mod? im walking away.. good of me huh

YOURS TRULEY
the strait southernbread

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if you think homo sex is ok do it in ur closet and dont try to push it on the rest of the world. thats one of the reasons people have problems with it because you try to force us to belive in it and guess what u will never win southernbread once again gains points for the hetros

Honestly, we'd be just as happy if you simply ignored it. It has nothing to do with heterosexuals. Gays aren't making commercials that appeal to homosexuals, we don't sponsor wet t-shirt contests, we do little that requires the attention of straight people. Gays certainly aren't asking straights to "believe" in gay sex since it already exists (or we wouldn't be talking about it). We don't even ask you to accept it. We would like straight people to not pay attention to it as it's none of their business. Since it doesn't affect a straight person's life, there's no good reason to have any more prohibitions placed on it than there are on heterosexual behavior. Gays who are not Christians or Muslims are not under their authority. Non-religious gays only ask the theists to govern their own and leave the rest of us alone.

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Quote by: southernbread ass the younger generation i have to say ur wrong, but i would say there is more igornace about gays. which means we dont know. like was said in one of the other guys comments, blacks and gays arent the same. gay is a choice. not being black. if u want to live in this country u should abide by our rules. being married is sacered and helped out by the govenment. so, why would u want to make something that is against god, be in a church. that makes no sense. Being married is of the lord. so why do u want something thats of the lord, but ur not living the life. that makes no sense and ur mocking the lord as u do it. thats like the kkk being mad that they cant have a ralley at church. you see what im saying. and please dont use the word ignorant where it doest belong. ignorant is NOT knowing. and well just use it in the right context next time. not a personal thing just saying southernbread

Funny, because nearly everyone in my school are fine with same sex marriage.
Also, homosexuality is not a choice, so stop trying that argument. There are testimonies from thousands of gay people that it is not a choice, there is scientific evidence emerging showing it's not a choice.
Also, because the government is involved in marriage, Religion doesn't get to say who can get married and who can't. Sorry, but marriage is a legal contract.

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Quote by: pikatore If other Christians who are gay want to marry, you really can't do anything about it. If there are people who are of the same religion as you, but are gay, and they want to be married in a church, at the end of the day, you can't stop them. um wow, ok look at what u just said, if christians are gay ans want to marry, thats like saying u cant put that guy on death row for murder hes a christian. ok they may claim that there christian but obviously there not. how does that work. IM a white guy, i can say im black all day, doesnt make it true does it. And you can stop them because a "christian" church that would marry two gay people isnt a christian church, thats not my opinion thats a fact. there someother kind of non god church

Lol, sorry, but there are gay people who are christian. Does that bother you?

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Quote by: southernbread wow, ok To the people who get married for the real reason its sacred. Just because u get married outside of the church doesnt mean that its outside of god. yes u can get married in vegas, but why do people go out of there way to do that? To have a cheaper marriage. If it was such a big deal gays could go to canada and get married and we wouldnt have this argument would we? oh but its not illegal to get married in the states, then why dont they? oh because its not allowed gotcha, i proven my point. im not as a younger generation gonna let these evil ways deter me from doing whats right. Man lays with woman. not man and man. MY kids will know its not right to lay with their own sex because im gonna teach them MORALS. if i make u mad i make u mad but thats what it all comes down too. people living upto what they belive. people arent born gay and they shouldnt have any rights because there gay. that makes no sense what so ever.

Again, tons of evidence showing that homosexuality is not a choice.

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Quote by: southernbread NO NO NO, i said extra rights, they get the same as u and me but im not gonna go out of my way because someone rather flount there gayness. i think they get the same rights as me except for the marraige thing because thats not my place to say yes u can marry , thats between them and god. i wonder what he would say?

Sorry, but when the government is involved, religion doesn't get a say. Sorry if that bothers you.

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And because i still have a few minutes before i have to go, here's just a quick bit of the evidence: Gay men and heterosexual women have similar brains, study suggests - Telegraph

And, to prove the other point, Anyone who happens to be a homosexual who reads this, please tell me, is it a choice?

There you go.

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umm ok man lol, well look at it this way, people who belive in god. would know that god wouldnt make u an aboimation from the get go. think about it. why would god do that. he wouldnt so gays just try to prove that its not there fought when in reality its all a choice. they can have the feelongs for a guy all they want but to act on it is a choice. A choice alone so no matter how many gays u ask its still a choice.
im done with this argument. its only based on the fact that god is real and he is so gays is a choice and because of that they cant be gay and a christian. hince they cant belive in both. Great u asked over 100 gays why they were gay and they blamed god wow. just seems like a way out to me.
southernbread. enough said

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Quote by: southernbread umm ok man lol, well look at it this way, people who belive in god. would know that god wouldnt make u an aboimation from the get go. think about it. why would god do that. he wouldnt so gays just try to prove that its not there fought when in reality its all a choice. they can have the feelongs for a guy all they want but to act on it is a choice. A choice alone so no matter how many gays u ask its still a choice. im done with this argument. its only based on the fact that god is real and he is so gays is a choice and because of that they cant be gay and a christian. hince they cant belive in both. Great u asked over 100 gays why they were gay and they blamed god wow. just seems like a way out to me. southernbread. enough said

sorry, but this is a debate. If you don't want to debate, please don't post.

Also, there are churches who don't consider it wrong to be gay. So there you go right there.As for the god argument thing, lets see, who should I listen to, hundreds of thousands of people and multiple medical studies saying it's not a choice, or a few people saying that god hates gay people and therefore they shouldn't have equal rights. I think i'll go with the scientists and hundreds of thousands of people.

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Quote by: Jack Honestly, we'd be just as happy if you simply ignored it. It has nothing to do with heterosexuals. Gays aren't making commercials that appeal to homosexuals, we don't sponsor wet t-shirt contests, we do little that requires the attention of straight people. Gays certainly aren't asking straights to "believe" in gay sex since it already exists (or we wouldn't be talking about it). We don't even ask you to accept it. We would like straight people to not pay attention to it as it's none of their business. Since it doesn't affect a straight person's life, there's no good reason to have any more prohibitions placed on it than there are on heterosexual behavior. Gays who are not Christians or Muslims are not under their authority. Non-religious gays only ask the theists to govern their own and leave the rest of us alone.

well, since u just came out as a gay, saying we, we we, its ok i dont judge. But you tell me how it doesnt effect my life. My daughter comes home from school and says lil johnny has two daddys why? what am i suppose to say to a child who doesnt understand that two grown men deceided it was best for them and the world(since we have to watch u hold hands in public and what not) to get married. what can i tell her? because the way im brought up in religion, is that there going to hell if they dont stop living that way. But im suppose to tell my little girl that they deceided not to hide it. Thats where i have the problem. if u wanna be with a guy behind closed doors, go at it, im not gonna stop u but to have my daughter and anyones kids see that is where im pissed. your right it might be because im from the south and we do things a little different but let a gay(guys) couple kiss in front of my daughter, ill beat the crap out of them and not a way they will like either. And im not saying im for lesibians either. just i wouldnt hit a lady.
thats what i think anyways..
southernbread OUT...