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This topic in Society & Rights is about Homosexual Marriage.

View Poll Results: In my opinion, homosexual marriage is
A civil rights issue. Anyone should be able to marry anyone 321 43.73%
A distraction from the real issues of government 90 12.26%
An unacceptable redefinition of a traditional concept 77 10.49%
Morally wrong since homosexuality is morally wrong 98 13.35%
A private matter between the couple and their minister 64 8.72%
Other-I will explain below 59 8.04%
A celebration of diversity 25 3.41%
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Old Apr 21, 2008, 05:51 pm   #5321 (permalink) (top)
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Really. Do feel free to talk to any Scandinavians you come across as to how you feel their society is warped and twisted.
Norway - constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of government.
Sweden - the same as Norway.
Denmark- constitutional monarchy with a representative democracy, based on a unicameral parliament.
Finland - republic with a representative democracy.

Do feel free why to explain why you think, Scandinavian country's are socialist.
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Old Apr 21, 2008, 05:56 pm   #5322 (permalink) (top)
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One, Finland isn't as you have JUST shown. Also, didn't the UK legalize it?


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Old Apr 21, 2008, 06:01 pm   #5323 (permalink) (top)
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From wiki- read and learn
"Finland is a Republic with a representative democracy governed according to the principles of parliamentarism. Legislative power is vested in the Parliament of Finland. Executive affairs of government are decided by the Council of State, which is led by the prime minister. Some matters are decided by the President of Finland in plenary meetings with the Council of State, echoing the constitutional history of a Privy Council. The President of the Republic is otherwise not present in the Council, but decides on issues like personal appointments and pardons on the advice of the relevant minister. In the ministries, matters of secondary importance are decided by individual ministers, advised by the minister's State Secretary. The Prime Minister and the other ministers in the Council of State are responsible for their actions in office to the Parliament of Finland."

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Main article: Prime Minister of Finland

Head of Government: Prime Minister Matti Vanhanen (since 2003)
Council of State: Ministers are appointed by the President upon the nomination of the Prime Minister and confirmed by Parliament
Elections: The Prime Minister designate is appointed by the President of Finland and then confirmed by Parliament
Election results: Matti Vanhanen was elected Prime Minister in June 2003, continuing the coalition government between the Centre Party (KESK), the Social Democrats (SDP), and the Swedish People's Party, which was established by his predecessor following the General Election in 2003. In 2007, following the election victory of National Coalition Party, Center Party formed a coalition government with the National Coalition, Swedish People's Party and the Green League, Matti Vanhanen continuing as the Prime Minister.

Does that sound like a socialist government to you?
And um the UK may have legalised it, but that doesnt mean its the government of England.
He did say Scandinavians, and Finns are considered Scandinavian.
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Old Apr 21, 2008, 06:09 pm   #5324 (permalink) (top)
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i never said finns weren't. Also, the UK shows you don't have to have a "socialist" government in order to legalize gay marriage.


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Old Apr 21, 2008, 06:58 pm   #5325 (permalink) (top)
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i never said finns weren't. Also, the UK shows you don't have to have a "socialist" government in order to legalize gay marriage.
That wasnt what I was arguing about.
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Old Apr 21, 2008, 07:13 pm   #5326 (permalink) (top)
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Well, tell me, if we aren't debating homosexual marriage, what do you think were debating?


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Old Apr 21, 2008, 07:22 pm   #5327 (permalink) (top)
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It was a side issue Halo.
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Old Apr 21, 2008, 07:27 pm   #5328 (permalink) (top)
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It was a side issue Halo.
So then Halo's point remains now, anyways.


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Old Apr 21, 2008, 07:43 pm   #5329 (permalink) (top)
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He doesn't have a point, he bought in something else that had nothing to do with what my reply to MattW was.
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Old Apr 21, 2008, 07:46 pm   #5330 (permalink) (top)
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Heh. You checked up on the policies and healthcare systems they use? Socialist, generally. By any right-wing definition.


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Old Apr 21, 2008, 07:50 pm   #5331 (permalink) (top)
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They are still elected democracy's but, there not socialist governments.
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Old Apr 21, 2008, 07:51 pm   #5332 (permalink) (top)
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And other elected democracies have recognised Homosexual marriage. What's your point again?


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Old Apr 21, 2008, 08:11 pm   #5333 (permalink) (top)
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I never said they haven't matt.
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Old Apr 21, 2008, 08:14 pm   #5334 (permalink) (top)
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No, you've been ranting about socialists and the downfall of society...etc...etc...etc.

But elected democracies have approved gay marriage, not socialist states. So. How does this tie in with the evils of the left again? And the majority of people not wanting it?


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Old Apr 21, 2008, 11:03 pm   #5335 (permalink) (top)
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I never said they haven't matt.
I posted a response to something you posted a day or so ago. If you could respond, that would be great.


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Meanwhile, back on earth.
I posted a response to something you posted a day or so ago. If you could respond, that would be great.
What post?
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Old Apr 22, 2008, 01:12 am   #5337 (permalink) (top)
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Anmon, I have a question for you.


You believe that gay pride events and marches spread "sleeze" and destroy society, correct?

26% of teenagers who come out to their parents are kicked out of their house. Why do you think this is? Do you beleive this is acceptable behavior?


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Old Apr 22, 2008, 01:13 am   #5338 (permalink) (top)
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=Matt W;498825]No, you've been ranting about socialists and the downfall of society...etc...etc...etc.
No, I've been putting my case forward as to why our society's have been breaking apart for the last forty years, from observation and discussing it with other people who have agreed, that socialism is the problem.
You probably being a socialist yourself would obviously disagree, despite the overwhelming evidence to sensibly minded people, of how wrong socialism is.

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But elected democracies have approved gay marriage, not socialist states.
Socialism wants the west to collapse, thats why they are working with minority's to destabilise our country's.
So there hardly going to approve something that is ruining us, in their own country's are they.


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So. How does this tie in with the evils of the left again? And the majority of people not wanting it?
If the majority of the people wanted it in, then don't you think it would be?
Its only socialist twits in uni full of their own puffed up arrogance that think socialism is any good, and that most people want it, who would want something that enslaved Russia and had her citizens terrified for over half a century, and China.
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Old Apr 22, 2008, 01:19 am   #5339 (permalink) (top)
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=Tycoon;498916]Anmon, I have a question for you.
You believe that gay pride events and marches spread "sleeze" and destroy society, correct?
I believe they contribute to it, yes.


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26% of teenagers who come out to their parents are kicked out of their house. Why do you think this is?
Obviously parents are ashamed and embarrassed, cant deal with it, and worried about the gay scene possibly invading their house.

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Do you beleive this is acceptable behavior?
Its their house, not yours, so who are you to question if their behaviour is acceptable or not?
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Old Apr 22, 2008, 01:30 am   #5340 (permalink) (top)
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I believe they contribute to it, yes.
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Obviously parents are ashamed and embarrassed, cant deal with it, and worried about the gay scene possibly invading their house.
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Its their house, not yours, so who are you to question if their behaviour is acceptable or not?
Should we let parents abuse or starve their children simply because it's their house? Parents have no reason to be ashamed or embarassed simply because their children are a little different. Society needs to begin accepting homosexuality, and the first step towards that is gay pride and gay events.

What kind of parent throws their children out because of a little embarassment? Or because of shame? They are obviously misinformed and blinded by society. This needs to change.


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