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Anmon · Apr 17, 2008, 07:15 am

So what just because we them doesn't make them totally right, and neither do some aspects of the gay movement, like gay marriages or adoption.

Winter wind · Apr 17, 2008, 08:01 am

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Pedophiles should just be taken out to an isolated island somewhere in the Pacific, pensioned off and left to rot. Contain the island, drop food supply's off paid with by their pensions, and neuter them of course in case some poor kids get shipwrecked there.

We tried that once (minus the neutering part).

It's called Australia.

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Even if they are wrong, its still what they want, and the majority's wishes should be respected above everything else, for a smoother running society,

Considering a majority of Americans think Hong Kong is in Japan and can't name more then half of the rights given by the first amendment, the majority can sit down and learn something.

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Where does it say in the Constitution that men should be allowed to marry each other and raise family's together?

it doesn't ban it or really give government jurisdiction to.

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That wasn't around either in law, but probably was discussed, I doubt gay marriage would have even been seriously considered as anything but a joke by the average person, if it was thought of at all.

They had other things on their mind. But they also counted slaves as three fifths of a man...so the founders weren't perfect.

I still don't understand how homosexuality is bad, but this time, I need evidence, proof, or something to back up your answer.

**Matt W** · Apr 17, 2008, 09:06 am

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So what just because we them doesn't make them totally right, and neither do some aspects of the gay movement, like gay marriages or adoption.

So what your argument basically boils down to is 'it's just not right'.

Sorry, but your morals aren't mine.

Anmon · Apr 17, 2008, 12:03 pm

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=Winter wind;497082]We tried that once (minus the neutering part)
It's called Australia.

I'll take that as an insult.

Anmon · Apr 17, 2008, 12:09 pm

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So what your argument basically boils down to is 'it's just not right'.
Sorry, but your morals aren't mine.

No my argument boils down gay lobbyists argument for equal marriage rights, have as they see their idea of marriage having little difference to traditional, despite the obvious, when it is really their interpretation of what marriage values are, in order to get laws passed, not copying the same.

Winter wind · Apr 17, 2008, 12:33 pm

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I'll take that as an insult.

hahaha it was a feeble joke, but grounded in some truth.

Anmon · Apr 17, 2008, 12:56 pm

Most white european Australians are descended from hard working settlers.

tommy5x · Apr 17, 2008, 02:10 pm

Settlers who worked hard, having served their time in prison?

Anmon · Apr 17, 2008, 02:40 pm

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Settlers who worked hard, having served their time in prison?

your 16, so I cant tell you to grow up I guess.

Morality Games · Apr 17, 2008, 02:50 pm

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your 16, so I cant tell you to grow up I guess.

You're bouncing of the walls, so I can't tell you to lighten up I guess.

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tommy5x · Apr 17, 2008, 05:37 pm

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your 16, so I cant tell you to grow up I guess.

Internet communication 101.

A wink implies a joke, or a contextual joke at your expense.

Anmon · Apr 17, 2008, 05:44 pm

Oh sorry, jolly good old chap.

tommy5x · Apr 18, 2008, 02:15 am

Haha, stereotype aways, you've been doing it throughtout this whole argument.

Everybody hates post hoc

Winter wind · Apr 18, 2008, 06:58 am

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your 16, so I cant tell you to grow up I guess.

Sorry I cracked the joke. Let's stay on topic.

Since I was the last person to post anything serious, Anmon...A response if you please?

Anmon · Apr 18, 2008, 10:32 am

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=tommy5x;497371]Haha, stereotype aways, you've been doing it throughtout this whole argument.]
Everybody hates post hoc

lol whatever

Anmon · Apr 18, 2008, 10:38 am

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Since I was the last person to post anything serious, Anmon...A response if you please?

I've given my responses already, so I'm not going to repeat them.
If your so sure your right, then why are you asking for my opinion?

tommy5x · Apr 18, 2008, 11:45 am

This is a debate forum, and he(?) wishes to debate.

yourmaster · Apr 18, 2008, 12:13 pm

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your 16, so I cant tell you to grow up I guess.

A lot of Australians are the descendants of deported prisoners, it has no reflection on today's Australia, lets please drop this it's pointless.

yourmaster · Apr 18, 2008, 12:18 pm

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I've given my responses already, so I'm not going to repeat them.
If your so sure your right, then why are you asking for my opinion?

Debate forum, it's what it's for.
So far I'm yet to see anything from you other then using common opinion to justify an arguement and saying what you're ideas of morals are, peoples respective morals will be different.
If you want to win the debate then I suggest you hurry up and think up something that is seriously going to prevent homosexual marriage being viable, Dirty Name had a good starting point, maybe you should think about building up from where he left off?

View Poll Results: In my opinion, homosexual marriage is
A civil rights issue. Anyone should be able to marry anyone	328	44.09%
A distraction from the real issues of government	91	12.23%
An unacceptable redefinition of a traditional concept	77	10.35%
Morally wrong since homosexuality is morally wrong	99	13.31%
A private matter between the couple and their minister	64	8.60%
Other-I will explain below	60	8.06%
A celebration of diversity	25	3.36%
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Apr 17, 2008, 02:10 pm	#5288 (permalink) (top)
tommy5x Erudite Location: England Posts: 133	Settlers who worked hard, having served their time in prison? When the time comes, that no more can be said, say no more.

Apr 18, 2008, 02:15 am	#5294 (permalink) (top)
tommy5x Erudite Location: England Posts: 133	Haha, stereotype aways, you've been doing it throughtout this whole argument. Everybody hates post hoc When the time comes, that no more can be said, say no more.

Apr 18, 2008, 11:45 am	#5298 (permalink) (top)
tommy5x Erudite Location: England Posts: 133	This is a debate forum, and he(?) wishes to debate. When the time comes, that no more can be said, say no more.

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Anmon BANNED Location: between the good and the bad Posts: 1,330	So what just because we them doesn't make them totally right, and neither do some aspects of the gay movement, like gay marriages or adoption.

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Anmon BANNED Location: between the good and the bad Posts: 1,330	Most white european Australians are descended from hard working settlers.

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Anmon BANNED Location: between the good and the bad Posts: 1,330	Oh sorry, jolly good old chap.