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This topic in Society & Rights is about Homosexual Marriage.

View Poll Results: In my opinion, homosexual marriage is
A civil rights issue. Anyone should be able to marry anyone 317 43.78%
A distraction from the real issues of government 88 12.15%
An unacceptable redefinition of a traditional concept 75 10.36%
Morally wrong since homosexuality is morally wrong 97 13.40%
A private matter between the couple and their minister 63 8.70%
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Old Jan 21, 2005, 11:27 pm   #281 (permalink) (top)
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Or, more simply, schools fail because they don't teach children to think for themselves. Rather, they're busy shoving Christian, government, or both agendas down children's throats.
No, modern schooling has failed because it crams the wrong world view down peoples throats. For centuries the christian world view has been promoted in schools. It wasnt until Dewey that schooling failed.
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Old Jan 21, 2005, 11:33 pm   #282 (permalink) (top)
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But I am sure he would be married of course and only have sex so that he could have children. And he would never, never, never have homosexual sex. I suppose you know all this because you receive a monthly copy of PlayGod and check out the pictures all the time.
Nope. God doesn't have sex. The Bible tells me what I know about the Biblical God. I suggest you read the Bible a cupple of times before you ask me any more questions about it. Going throught the Westminster Confession of Faith is a good suplement. Why do you say that you are sure, but that I know what you are sure of is true because I look it up?
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Old Jan 21, 2005, 11:39 pm   #283 (permalink) (top)
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So you are absolutely sure that god does not have sex?

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Old Jan 21, 2005, 11:42 pm   #284 (permalink) (top)
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So you are absolutely sure that god does not have sex?
Yes, I am sure.


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Old Jan 21, 2005, 11:43 pm   #285 (permalink) (top)
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How did He have a son then? *Confused look*
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Old Jan 21, 2005, 11:44 pm   #286 (permalink) (top)
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Curse you tinybear! You stole my punchline!

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Old Jan 21, 2005, 11:46 pm   #287 (permalink) (top)
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How did He have a son then? *Confused look*
Was expecting that.
Jesus Christ has existed for all of eternity. He was not created or born or anything of the sort. I thought I told you to read your Bible.


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Old Jan 21, 2005, 11:50 pm   #288 (permalink) (top)
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But, but...who was that baby Mary had? You know, the one in the stable? *Even more confused look*
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Old Jan 21, 2005, 11:50 pm   #289 (permalink) (top)
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I find it so amazing how people can have such confidence about the habits of god. It is almost as if god is not telling them how to be but they are telling god how to be. In some sense such sure knowledge of god would have to be an idol in and of it self.

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Old Jan 22, 2005, 12:13 am   #290 (permalink) (top)
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But, but...who was that baby Mary had? You know, the one in the stable? *Even more confused look*
That was the incarnation of the eternal Christ. I don't see a problem.

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I find is so amazing how people can have such confidence about the habits of god. It is almost as if god is not telling them how to be but they are telling god how to be. In some sense such sure knowledge of god would have to be an idol in and of it self.
You would be further amazed at how much the Bible says about God.


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Old Jan 22, 2005, 12:31 am   #291 (permalink) (top)
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Oh I am aware of the fantasy in the bible. What I find amazing is that you would think that anywhere in the bible that the sex life of god is exposed. And yet you would behave as if it was. Why lie so?

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Old Jan 22, 2005, 12:07 pm   #292 (permalink) (top)
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Oh I am aware of the fantasy in the bible.
Are you also aware of the Bible's historical significance?
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Old Jan 22, 2005, 12:14 pm   #293 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, it was used by many Powerful Church leaders who, through the generations are edited the text and added/removed parts as they saw fit. It is a very powerful peace of Propaganda for a large proportion of the world.


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Old Jan 22, 2005, 12:32 pm   #294 (permalink) (top)
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Yup, if it were an actual historical tradition it would contain all the accounts of Jesus that were available, since that is history, rather than suppressing, deleting and adding accounts along the way. If it is any kind of "historical" tradition it is the history of manipulating history for the purposes of power. What does god need with a church or a bible? Those that honestly think that god speaks through churches and bibles would attend and ascribe to all the supernatural religions on the earth. But they do the exact opposite.

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Old Jan 22, 2005, 12:45 pm   #295 (permalink) (top)
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You both are correct on certain levels on wrong on many others. I am amazed that I can ask such a simple question and get such trivial (yet seemingly typical) answers.
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Old Jan 22, 2005, 12:49 pm   #296 (permalink) (top)
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Ahhhh yes. The partially right therefore completly wrong argument. However this argument only works if a sufficient amount of "faith" is applied.

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Old Jan 22, 2005, 12:50 pm   #297 (permalink) (top)
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Not at all. You seem to paint everything as either this way or that, which is about as off-base as it gets. I never said anything about "faith". See what I mean?
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Old Jan 22, 2005, 12:58 pm   #298 (permalink) (top)
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Lou, if you agree that Christianity is pretty much a historical fabrication and that the fabrication was done to suite the fabricators then how can it be wrong that it is full of shit. It is not as if the historical hankey pankey is its greatest problem.

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Old Jan 22, 2005, 01:01 pm   #299 (permalink) (top)
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Isn't this a bit off-topic? I mean, we're talking homosexual marriages here, are we not?
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Old Jan 22, 2005, 01:21 pm   #300 (permalink) (top)
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Lou, if you agree that Christianity is pretty much a historical fabrication and that the fabrication was done to suite the fabricators then how can it be wrong that it is full of shit. It is not as if the historical hankey pankey is its greatest problem.

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Yes, I agree Christianity, like every other "movement" (for lack of a better term), got infiltrated by provocateurs and profiteers, and was/is being manipulated into a means of controlling people. Just like the environmental movement, the protestant reformation, you name it, "they" force it to serve them. But that doesn't completely discount the religious experience as a whole and does nothing to uproot the significance of what Jesus was and what he represents. You don't have to get tangled in the mumbo jumbo to understand the true essence of the sacrifice certain individuals have made in the name of freedom and humanity.
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