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Evil Baby · Oct 16, 2004, 11:01 am

Yesterday, Ontario's Attorney General Michael Bryant said that within a month he will introduce legislation to ban Pit Bulls in Ontario.

Those who already own the dog can keep it but must muzzle it when in public. Once legislation is passed you will not be able to breed, re-house or import Pit Bulls into Ontario.

Now, personally I'd rather see that Pit Bull owners have to get a special licens to own the dog, and that dog must pass obedience training. The owner must also go to a course to insure that he can car for the pet properly. I think a total ban on the dog is a little excesive, but I suppose better then nothing.

Nono · Oct 16, 2004, 11:47 am

A couple of years ago I saw a photo of the remains of an old lady killed by a pit bull in a park in France. Not much left, I'm afraid. Chihuahuas don't do this.

Lava · Oct 16, 2004, 02:32 pm

Stange to ban an animal that saves more lives than it kills, and that is not difficult to handle safely. But... stereotypes rule.

Lava

Nono · Oct 16, 2004, 03:18 pm

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Originally posted by Lava
stereotypes rule

That's the categorizing human mind in a nutshell.

Of course, this undeniable fact is cold comfort to the lady in question.

Evil Baby · Oct 16, 2004, 07:14 pm

There has been a serious upswing in pit Bull attacks in the last few months, which is why this ban was put into place.

Suburbanite · Oct 16, 2004, 08:45 pm

I think anyone who gets killed or hurt by a dog deserves it. I was once attacked by a rottweiler, a young one but almost full grown, and when it leapt at me I punched it in the face really hard. It stopped. Problem solved. And I was a young kid at the time!

Nono · Oct 17, 2004, 05:46 am

Jeez, that stupid old lady. What was she on?

Lava · Oct 17, 2004, 08:04 am

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Originally posted by Evil Baby,
There has been a serious upswing in pit Bull attacks in the last few months, which is why this ban was put into place.

Thats not a reason to ban, thats a reason to require they wear muzzles in public.

Lava

Evil Baby · Oct 17, 2004, 02:42 pm

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Originally posted by Suburbanite,
I think anyone who gets killed or hurt by a dog deserves it. I was once attacked by a rottweiler, a young one but almost full grown, and when it leapt at me I punched it in the face really hard. It stopped. Problem solved. And I was a young kid at the time!

It must have been a very yound dog, or didn't really want to attack you. I've seen dogs in fights get hit with 2x4's and pay no attention. I highly doubt a punch to the face of a Pit Bull that wants to attack is gonna stop it. After all, that is what it was bread(sp) for.

I agree, this is not cause for a ban, but rather for muzzles

SVMc · Nov 23, 2004, 12:50 pm

Living in Ontario I have met very few people who are in favour of the ban... however those who are in favour of it have screamed the loudest.

I sincerely doubt that there has been a large upsurge in the attacks by pit bulls... it seems more like the media is now hunting for stories where someone was attacked by a dog that could be described as a pit bull.

I did find it quite humourous that City TV cornered Michael Bryant last week and asked him to identify which dog was the pit bull out of 16 photos. He got it wrong the reporter commented that she had moved the photos around after she suspected that his staff had let him know where the correct photo was. After all of his speaches saying "you know if you bought a pit bull" he couldn't even identify one.

I live in an area with one of the largest dog parks and a high number of pti bulls. Personally I've never had a problem, seen a problem or heard of a problem with them in this area. It's really too bad that they are so quick to act in such a knee jerk reaction.

PatrickHenry · Nov 23, 2004, 01:44 pm

There is nothing special about bulldogs. Fierce dogs are the responsibility of owners, who should be intensely prosecuted for unwarranted attacks. If I own an attack/guard dog, I must be willing to restrain him when in public. On my own property, properly fenced, intruders should be wary of my dog's feeding habits...Heh.

Oct 16, 2004, 11:47 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Nono Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 6,774	A couple of years ago I saw a photo of the remains of an old lady killed by a pit bull in a park in France. Not much left, I'm afraid. Chihuahuas don't do this. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne

Oct 17, 2004, 05:46 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
Nono Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 6,774	Jeez, that stupid old lady. What was she on? "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne

Nov 23, 2004, 12:50 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
SVMc Lazy Sniper Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 513	Living in Ontario I have met very few people who are in favour of the ban... however those who are in favour of it have screamed the loudest. I sincerely doubt that there has been a large upsurge in the attacks by pit bulls... it seems more like the media is now hunting for stories where someone was attacked by a dog that could be described as a pit bull. I did find it quite humourous that City TV cornered Michael Bryant last week and asked him to identify which dog was the pit bull out of 16 photos. He got it wrong the reporter commented that she had moved the photos around after she suspected that his staff had let him know where the correct photo was. After all of his speaches saying "you know if you bought a pit bull" he couldn't even identify one. I live in an area with one of the largest dog parks and a high number of pti bulls. Personally I've never had a problem, seen a problem or heard of a problem with them in this area. It's really too bad that they are so quick to act in such a knee jerk reaction. Capitalism is: Man exploiting man. Socialism is the other way around.

Nov 23, 2004, 01:44 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	There is nothing special about bulldogs. Fierce dogs are the responsibility of owners, who should be intensely prosecuted for unwarranted attacks. If I own an attack/guard dog, I must be willing to restrain him when in public. On my own property, properly fenced, intruders should be wary of my dog's feeding habits...Heh. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Oct 16, 2004, 11:01 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
Evil Baby Igneous Magma Posts: 313	Yesterday, Ontario's Attorney General Michael Bryant said that within a month he will introduce legislation to ban Pit Bulls in Ontario. Those who already own the dog can keep it but must muzzle it when in public. Once legislation is passed you will not be able to breed, re-house or import Pit Bulls into Ontario. Now, personally I'd rather see that Pit Bull owners have to get a special licens to own the dog, and that dog must pass obedience training. The owner must also go to a course to insure that he can car for the pet properly. I think a total ban on the dog is a little excesive, but I suppose better then nothing.

Oct 16, 2004, 02:32 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Lava Igneous Magma Posts: 716	Stange to ban an animal that saves more lives than it kills, and that is not difficult to handle safely. But... stereotypes rule. Lava

Oct 16, 2004, 07:14 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Evil Baby Igneous Magma Posts: 313	There has been a serious upswing in pit Bull attacks in the last few months, which is why this ban was put into place.

Oct 16, 2004, 08:45 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	I think anyone who gets killed or hurt by a dog deserves it. I was once attacked by a rottweiler, a young one but almost full grown, and when it leapt at me I punched it in the face really hard. It stopped. Problem solved. And I was a young kid at the time!