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Dec 5, 2003, 09:03 pm

I know a few vegetarians, and I assume most of you aren't, but for the few who are...

what is the specific reason for it? I know this isn't really a debate right now, but I suspect it could turn into one!

Funny: http://vbforums.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=1573312

Sodfather · Dec 5, 2003, 09:38 pm

That link doesn't make sense. If you eat the meat of slaughtered animals, you would be part of the so-called problem by fueling the demand for it. :confused:

RebelWithanAK · Dec 6, 2003, 01:05 am

As said by Greg Proops, animals were put here to serve two purposes: To taste delicious, and to fit well. =]

That said, I know that to maintain my life I must end other life - flora or fauna. The point is to appreciate and give thanks for the damned tasty cow that I am wearing right now...

Nexa · Dec 6, 2003, 07:18 pm

Well I'm not a vegetarian myself, but I know one reason for it

"I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants."

G. Adams · Dec 6, 2003, 09:16 pm

I don't know how anyone who grew up as omniverous can go veggie, one whiff of a bacon sandwhich and i'd break.

Dec 7, 2003, 09:34 pm

The link is a joke, it's not supposed to make sense... its making fun of the vegetarian ads...
I have 4 vegetarian friends.
1 becuase he "loves animals".
2 because their parents raised them that way.
1 doesn't like the taste of meat (yeah, right!)

Impenitent · Dec 8, 2003, 11:38 am

the cannibals think that vegetarians taste best...

Waychel · Dec 13, 2003, 01:38 am

I hate the term, but my diet is what some people call "pescotarian" - meaning that the only meats I regularly consume are chicken and fish. I don't have any health or animal rights reasons for my diet. Chicken and fish are just the only two meats I have a taste for. If I'm going out to eat with someone though and they want steak, I always go along with it, because I do not want to be an inconveniance by being offputting.

I find strictly vegetarian diets to be extremely unhealthy. Having your diet consist entirely of vegetables, fruits and grains is just as bad for your body as having it exist entirely of meat products. I don't know where people came up with the notion that depriving your body of the nutrients and proteins it needs from a certain foodgroup was "healthy". I think the real misconception among vegetarians is that they overlook the fact that what kills people is not meat, but an over-abundance of it accompanied by a lack of exercise.

The Devil · Dec 14, 2003, 02:34 pm

I'm a vegetarian. I'm not a PETA member. PETA makes us all look bad.

On another note, I hate people who are against hunting, and then go eat a burger. I think it's worse to farm an animal for the purpose of food than to hunt for the purpose of food.

RebelWithanAK · Dec 14, 2003, 04:51 pm

Yay, non-PETA member! I always thought there was something wrong with that organization: Any org that'd rather spend thousands on getting a town to change its name instead of lifting a finger to stop cock and dog fights in my neighborhood is a org that doesn't have its priorities straight.

However, considering the vast populations of human omnivores in this world, hunting... really isn't a viable option. Not to mention that those cultures who limited their population and sedentary nature by following the paths of animals tended to be destroyed by those who farmed and ranched.

The Devil · Dec 14, 2003, 05:25 pm

I'll feel safer eating a deer I shot, than a cow that's been pumped full of amphetamines and other drugs, and lived in it's own shit.

RebelWithanAK · Dec 14, 2003, 06:12 pm

I tend not to like the taste of gunpowder, thankyouverymuch.

The Devil · Dec 14, 2003, 07:41 pm

Shows how much you know about guns, and hunting. A hunk of lead goes into the deer's heart, and it dies. You butcher the heart out, and remove the bullet. Gunpowder explodes in the barrel, and shoots out about 5 feet.

RebelWithanAK · Dec 14, 2003, 08:12 pm

Actually, shows how much you know about what bullets do when they impact something. Bullets used for hunting usually are soft point or hollow point. Soft point bullets usually have exposed lead, and expand on impact - meaning that the meat hit by the bullet is rather tainted, not to mention any meat the bullet itself is caught in. Hollow point is similar, but more jacketed. If you want a clean meat taste, use FMJ, though that's probably going to go through the animal and a tree or two beyond it, meaning the animal's probably going to run away a few miles before bleeding to death.

For my taste, I'd rather you used a machete.

The Devil · Dec 14, 2003, 08:35 pm

Hollow point actually expands in flight :B. Anyway, as far as deer go where I come from, you can only use a bow, or black powder (which is basically a musket, lol).

G. Adams · Dec 15, 2003, 03:49 am

In the UK most parks that have deer for hunting will only let you hunt if you can prove to be a good shot, so you hit the head. If you take a carcass away with hits from other areas you'll be banned from the park.

Anyway bow hunting is better, have to get a lot closer, which means more fun in the stalking department. Hunting with rifles always seems unfair.

Impenitent · Dec 15, 2003, 11:51 am

the best hunting is done with large boulders and Acme rockets...
just ask Wile E. Coyote...

Dec 17, 2003, 10:45 pm

at my school there is a veggie club called "sea-ark" that had a "demonstration" the other day.

i think personally they were embarrassing themselvesm running around with signs of pigs saying "why eat me?"

This is why: "BECUASE YOU TASTE GOOD AND HAVE OTHERWISE NO PURPOSE TO EXIST!"

onphiya · Jan 21, 2004, 01:38 pm

[font=Georgia]i'm a vegetarian. i'm also a card-carrying member of peta (which isn't exactly something i'm proud of.) peta is a joke. it's as if they value the life of animals more than humans and tend to take things a bit too far to express their thoughts and beliefs. i'm a vegetarian because if i can do something to prolong my life, i'm going to do it.[/font]

**Pooeypants** · Jan 22, 2004, 11:22 am

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (onphiya,)
[font=Georgia]i'm a vegetarian. i'm also a card-carrying member of peta (which isn't exactly something i'm proud of.) peta is a joke. it's as if they value the life of animals more than humans and tend to take things a bit too far to express their thoughts and beliefs. i'm a vegetarian because if i can do something to prolong my life, i'm going to do it.[/font]<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
You should stay at home more to begin with.

Anyway, I didn't know vegetarians had longer life spans, I always thought a balanced diet (including meat as we evolved to be omnivores) was part of it.

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Dec 5, 2003, 09:03 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Gregory Guest Posts: n/a	Vegetarianism I know a few vegetarians, and I assume most of you aren't, but for the few who are... what is the specific reason for it? I know this isn't really a debate right now, but I suspect it could turn into one! Funny: http://vbforums.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=1573312

Dec 6, 2003, 01:05 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	As said by Greg Proops, animals were put here to serve two purposes: To taste delicious, and to fit well. =] That said, I know that to maintain my life I must end other life - flora or fauna. The point is to appreciate and give thanks for the damned tasty cow that I am wearing right now... . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Dec 6, 2003, 09:16 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,152	I don't know how anyone who grew up as omniverous can go veggie, one whiff of a bacon sandwhich and i'd break. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Dec 8, 2003, 11:38 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	the cannibals think that vegetarians taste best... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Dec 5, 2003, 09:38 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Sodfather Igneous Magma Posts: 327	That link doesn't make sense. If you eat the meat of slaughtered animals, you would be part of the so-called problem by fueling the demand for it. :confused:

Dec 6, 2003, 07:18 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Nexa Sedimentary Rock Location: New York, USA Posts: 11	Well I'm not a vegetarian myself, but I know one reason for it "I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants."

Dec 7, 2003, 09:34 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Gregory Guest Posts: n/a	The link is a joke, it's not supposed to make sense... its making fun of the vegetarian ads... I have 4 vegetarian friends. 1 becuase he "loves animals". 2 because their parents raised them that way. 1 doesn't like the taste of meat (yeah, right!)

Dec 13, 2003, 01:38 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
Waychel Supercalifragilistic Posts: 431	I hate the term, but my diet is what some people call "pescotarian" - meaning that the only meats I regularly consume are chicken and fish. I don't have any health or animal rights reasons for my diet. Chicken and fish are just the only two meats I have a taste for. If I'm going out to eat with someone though and they want steak, I always go along with it, because I do not want to be an inconveniance by being offputting. I find strictly vegetarian diets to be extremely unhealthy. Having your diet consist entirely of vegetables, fruits and grains is just as bad for your body as having it exist entirely of meat products. I don't know where people came up with the notion that depriving your body of the nutrients and proteins it needs from a certain foodgroup was "healthy". I think the real misconception among vegetarians is that they overlook the fact that what kills people is not meat, but an over-abundance of it accompanied by a lack of exercise. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

Dec 14, 2003, 02:34 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
The Devil Molten Ash Location: Canada Posts: 55	I'm a vegetarian. I'm not a PETA member. PETA makes us all look bad. On another note, I hate people who are against hunting, and then go eat a burger. I think it's worse to farm an animal for the purpose of food than to hunt for the purpose of food.

Dec 14, 2003, 04:51 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	Yay, non-PETA member! I always thought there was something wrong with that organization: Any org that'd rather spend thousands on getting a town to change its name instead of lifting a finger to stop cock and dog fights in my neighborhood is a org that doesn't have its priorities straight. However, considering the vast populations of human omnivores in this world, hunting... really isn't a viable option. Not to mention that those cultures who limited their population and sedentary nature by following the paths of animals tended to be destroyed by those who farmed and ranched. . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Dec 14, 2003, 05:25 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
The Devil Molten Ash Location: Canada Posts: 55	I'll feel safer eating a deer I shot, than a cow that's been pumped full of amphetamines and other drugs, and lived in it's own shit.

Dec 14, 2003, 06:12 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	I tend not to like the taste of gunpowder, thankyouverymuch. . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Dec 14, 2003, 07:41 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
The Devil Molten Ash Location: Canada Posts: 55	Shows how much you know about guns, and hunting. A hunk of lead goes into the deer's heart, and it dies. You butcher the heart out, and remove the bullet. Gunpowder explodes in the barrel, and shoots out about 5 feet.

Dec 14, 2003, 08:12 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	Actually, shows how much you know about what bullets do when they impact something. Bullets used for hunting usually are soft point or hollow point. Soft point bullets usually have exposed lead, and expand on impact - meaning that the meat hit by the bullet is rather tainted, not to mention any meat the bullet itself is caught in. Hollow point is similar, but more jacketed. If you want a clean meat taste, use FMJ, though that's probably going to go through the animal and a tree or two beyond it, meaning the animal's probably going to run away a few miles before bleeding to death. For my taste, I'd rather you used a machete. . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Dec 14, 2003, 08:35 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
The Devil Molten Ash Location: Canada Posts: 55	Hollow point actually expands in flight :B. Anyway, as far as deer go where I come from, you can only use a bow, or black powder (which is basically a musket, lol).

Dec 15, 2003, 03:49 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,152	In the UK most parks that have deer for hunting will only let you hunt if you can prove to be a good shot, so you hit the head. If you take a carcass away with hits from other areas you'll be banned from the park. Anyway bow hunting is better, have to get a lot closer, which means more fun in the stalking department. Hunting with rifles always seems unfair. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Dec 15, 2003, 11:51 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	the best hunting is done with large boulders and Acme rockets... just ask Wile E. Coyote... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Dec 17, 2003, 10:45 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Gregory Guest Posts: n/a	at my school there is a veggie club called "sea-ark" that had a "demonstration" the other day. i think personally they were embarrassing themselvesm running around with signs of pigs saying "why eat me?" This is why: "BECUASE YOU TASTE GOOD AND HAVE OTHERWISE NO PURPOSE TO EXIST!"

Jan 21, 2004, 01:38 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
onphiya Sedimentary Rock Posts: 7	[font=Georgia]i'm a vegetarian. i'm also a card-carrying member of peta (which isn't exactly something i'm proud of.) peta is a joke. it's as if they value the life of animals more than humans and tend to take things a bit too far to express their thoughts and beliefs. i'm a vegetarian because if i can do something to prolong my life, i'm going to do it.[/font] <span style='font-family:Georgia'><span style='font-size:9pt;line-height:100%'>be thankful for everything; soon there'll be nothing. be question everything. every stripe, every star, every word spoken. everything.</span></span>

Jan 22, 2004, 11:22 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,473	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (onphiya,) [font=Georgia]i'm a vegetarian. i'm also a card-carrying member of peta (which isn't exactly something i'm proud of.) peta is a joke. it's as if they value the life of animals more than humans and tend to take things a bit too far to express their thoughts and beliefs. i'm a vegetarian because if i can do something to prolong my life, i'm going to do it.[/font]<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> You should stay at home more to begin with. Anyway, I didn't know vegetarians had longer life spans, I always thought a balanced diet (including meat as we evolved to be omnivores) was part of it. War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before