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zontovolo · Apr 11, 2008, 03:05 am

Matt, I don't think most meat eaters say that killing plants is wrong too to ease their consciences, but rather for argument's sake. I for one, don't think that killing animals is inherently bad--the only thing that makes it feel bad is that we as humans have the logic to put ourselves in their shoes, so to speak. Why doesn't the lion, for example, have feelings of remorse when it mauls an antelope to death (which is arguably a death worse than that in a meat processing facility)? My general idea is that human logic goes in the way of our instinct--if we were to follow our instincts same as all the other animals, we would kill with no remorse.

On the other hand, our unique brand of thought also makes us capable of doing things not directly necessary to our survival. No animal is violent and/or kills if there is no reason, but we humans do. By that, I mean that we should see killing animals in the same light as killing humans: Violence in humans is a much more complicated matter than violence in animals, and it directly relates to our levels of logic.

My bottom line is that eating meat is not inherently wrong--we see it in nature all the time. The matter of animals feeling pain is also irrelevant, because animals feel pain all the time in nature. Now, I must say that I love animals and would never personally kill one (because I have been brought up that way), but on an abstract level where I can talk objectively, I come to the (uncomfortable, to be sure) conclusion that killing animals is not inherently bad.

I would love to see what other people have to say about the opinions I have expressed, so please comment on them.

LadyMacbeth · Apr 29, 2008, 10:26 am

Im a vegitairian because I Love animals and dont want to eat them! I have been a vegitairian for 9 years since I was 6 years old and very into Animal Rights.

Kuldeep · May 13, 2008, 05:28 am

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I come to the (uncomfortable, to be sure) conclusion that killing animals is not inherently bad.

Inhernatly not bad !! But out wardly bad ??? Please clarify !

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I would love to see what other people have to say about the opinions I have expressed, so please comment on them.

You have analysed the idea correctly. You have said animals do not kill without a purpose but human does. Lot has been already discussed in this thread before and then later in another thread Non-vegetarianism...why of it ??". For detail you may like to refer.

Rog · May 15, 2008, 03:35 pm

Hello, first post. Hi I am Rog, and I am friendly!

Rog · May 15, 2008, 03:37 pm

Ok, now that I was friendly on my first post, I can desagree with some of you.

Matt · May 15, 2008, 05:45 pm

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Ok, now that I was friendly on my first post, I can desagree with some of you.

Ummmm....

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Apr 11, 2008, 03:05 am	#901 (permalink) (top)
zontovolo Sedimentary Rock Posts: 1	Matt, I don't think most meat eaters say that killing plants is wrong too to ease their consciences, but rather for argument's sake. I for one, don't think that killing animals is inherently bad--the only thing that makes it feel bad is that we as humans have the logic to put ourselves in their shoes, so to speak. Why doesn't the lion, for example, have feelings of remorse when it mauls an antelope to death (which is arguably a death worse than that in a meat processing facility)? My general idea is that human logic goes in the way of our instinct--if we were to follow our instincts same as all the other animals, we would kill with no remorse. On the other hand, our unique brand of thought also makes us capable of doing things not directly necessary to our survival. No animal is violent and/or kills if there is no reason, but we humans do. By that, I mean that we should see killing animals in the same light as killing humans: Violence in humans is a much more complicated matter than violence in animals, and it directly relates to our levels of logic. My bottom line is that eating meat is not inherently wrong--we see it in nature all the time. The matter of animals feeling pain is also irrelevant, because animals feel pain all the time in nature. Now, I must say that I love animals and would never personally kill one (because I have been brought up that way), but on an abstract level where I can talk objectively, I come to the (uncomfortable, to be sure) conclusion that killing animals is not inherently bad. I would love to see what other people have to say about the opinions I have expressed, so please comment on them.

Apr 29, 2008, 10:26 am	#902 (permalink) (top)
LadyMacbeth Sedimentary Rock Posts: 5	Im a vegitairian because I Love animals and dont want to eat them! I have been a vegitairian for 9 years since I was 6 years old and very into Animal Rights.

May 15, 2008, 03:35 pm	#904 (permalink) (top)
Rog hum? Location: Orlando Posts: 4	Hello, first post. Hi I am Rog, and I am friendly!

May 15, 2008, 03:37 pm	#905 (permalink) (top)
Rog hum? Location: Orlando Posts: 4	Ok, now that I was friendly on my first post, I can desagree with some of you.