Vaccination against will, Please Help!

[yukonmuffin]

My Situation:

I'm in my final year of school, 17, living with my parents. For my own reasons I do not want to get the H1N1 (swine flue) vaccine.
My Parents however have been terrified by the crap on the radio (CBC). They are playing every card in their deck to get me too go to the Vaccination clinic; I mean threatening to take away the car I am borrowing from them and kick me out of the house. They say they have a legal right to force me to get the shot.

In no way am I imunocomprimised, Each year If I acualy contract the influenza I have very mild symptoms in comparasim to my peers.

I know their motivation is fear of losing me but I feel a line must be drawn here. Any helpfull Information that may pres-wade them to not threaten to take away the roof over my head would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.

[Thanatos]

Pick your battles. I know that's not what I'd have wanted to hear at 17 but pick your goddamn battles.

Cost of getting flu shot: essentially zero, unless you're a conspiracy theorist in which case I don't really have a problem with people making your life miserable.

Cost of not getting flu shot: life on the curb and not having a car, unless your parents aren't serious which they most likely aren't. Unless they're just totally crazy. Which they might be.

[RickSp]

I am no help. I got the seasonal flu shot and am looking forward to the H1N1 being available.

Having had the flu several years ago, the risk of the vaccine seem very small as compared to the risk of the flu itself.

What could your reasons be that you are willing to put up with so much to avoid getting a very low risk shot which might protect you from a much larger risk?

[Angry Citizen]

Well, they have a point. H1n1 is a serious virus. It's specifically targeted against your demographic. They have every right to exercise their authority over you in order to get the desired outcome. Just do it, man. From one teenager to another.

[yukonmuffin]

Not One against?

[yukonmuffin]

The flue kills people everyday, why is this one so special? I've had food poisoning and the symptoms where much worse then the H1N1 description.

[Thanatos]

Quote by: yukonmuffin Not One against?

Sorry. You're a cool roll of duct tape and all but there's really only one good choice.

I checked Canada's laws for you and whether you have any rights at all will depend on where you live.

[yukonmuffin]

Whitehorse, Yukon Territory; it's not mandatory. I'm not really going to get the boot and I don't want to give out too much more personal information.

Another child with swine flu has died in Northern Ireland - the second in less than 48 hours.
Though I couldn't find the story, Canada has had similar cases. The boy had a "serious underlying medical condition", and the flue finished him off. this is not unusual, but the media blows the story out of proportion and attempts to cause panic with a good success rate.
Just like the invasion of Iraq I think somebody behind the scenes is making some Sirius money here.

[Rog]

Dont do it bro, that vaccine is full of nasty crap, if something happens to you, the makers are not reliable for it.
h1n1 is a very mild virus.
explain to your parents your reasons.

[Night]

H1N1 is killing people. My friend's sister is healthy, recently got the H1N1 flu virus, and now she's in the hospital with H1N1 induced pneumonia. It has caused permanent lung damage.

Yeah, "very mild" my ***.

Get the vaccine and quit whining.

[Thanatos]

Quote by: yukonmuffin Whitehorse, Yukon Territory; it's not mandatory. I'm not really going to get the boot and I don't want to give out too much more personal information. Another child with swine flu has died in Northern Ireland - the second in less than 48 hours. Though I couldn't find the story, Canada has had similar cases. The boy had a "serious underlying medical condition", and the flue finished him off. this is not unusual, but the media blows the story out of proportion and attempts to cause panic with a good success rate. Just like the invasion of Iraq I think somebody behind the scenes is making some Sirius money here.

Age of majority is 19 there.

Tell me something. Why is it that every single Canadian province has it's own age limits for everything?

[yukonmuffin]

regionalism. Alberta and Quebec also have a 18 year old drinking age where as everyone else has a 19.
Pneumonia can happen with any sickness, but I'm sorry to hear that night.
I'm not whining, the proses of getting the vaccine isn't what I'm worried about. It's the fact that it's almost mandatory that's bugging me.

[Night]

So if driving on the right hand side of the road were mandatory, as it currently is, would you be bugged? Man up and get the shot, who cares if it's mandatory or not.

[Cruella]

Suck it up. My five year old neice is currently seriously ill with swine flu. Don't put your family through that too. Be a man, and take the shot, just because you've shaken illnesses off in the past does not mean you have any way of predicting how you may, or may not, survive any other illness.

[Night]

And just because you may not get too sick from the H1N1 doesn't mean you can't pass it on to others.

In fact, a substantial number of people every year will become infected with the flu virus and show no symptoms. They are still very contagious. That is why you can become infected from a person who shows no symptoms, be it a family member or coworker.

[SmirkingMan]

As father of a couple of lads just a little older than you, I'm surprised that your parents are forcing this on you. Trying hard to persuade you, fine, but forcing?

If, as a parent, you want your child to rebel and leave the nest, this sounds like the best way of doing it.

It's your body. Explain this, giving a calm, reasonable argument.
You'll probably earn some respect and it'll give you self-esteem.

You'll be an adult in less than a year, it's about time your parents started learning to live with that.

[Rog]

Quote by: Night H1N1 is killing people. My friend's sister is healthy, recently got the H1N1 flu virus, and now she's in the hospital with H1N1 induced pneumonia. It has caused permanent lung damage. Yeah, "very mild" my ***. Get the vaccine and quit whining.

lol! 90% of the people killed had some type of chronic condition.

[Charlatan]

Do you drag someone to an asylum for their own good? Do you police the streets to protect the innocent? Do you drag victims off to their houses because someone is out to get them? Do police tak in 'suspects'? Do people try to help each other?

Helping others against their will is societal, therferoe good, and so forth. Vaccination against will is essential to that person, unless they want to die. A person's right to stay in a building building is overriden by law, so it is illegal to want to die and enforce it.

[Night]

Quote by: Rog lol! 90% of the people killed had some type of chronic condition.

lol! I never suggested otherwise.

[Questatement]

Quote by: Rog lol! 90% of the people killed had some type of chronic condition.

According to WHO, 80% of those who have died from H1N1 had preexisting conditions considered 'morbid.' That means they were already given approximate dates in which they would die from these conditions. That leaves only 1,000 of the 5,000 who have died in a year's time to explain just how healthy they were prior to contracting H1N1. Keep in mind that aprox. 400,000 die annually from the regular flu each and every year.

Like I said to my supervisor who was encouraging the vaccine through our workplace... find me one completely healthy individual who has died wherein the follow up diagnosis did not include a preexisting condition such as a bacterial infection or worse. This would of course not include any story that was just released without enough time to make that determination.

Then, I offered the known cases of adverse reactions to the vaccine. Five days have passed and no response yet. Another factor to consider is that the strain one is eventually exposed to may not match closely enough to the vaccine to be effective.