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    Quote Quote by: Tycoon View Post
    Hitler was not supported by the U.S. at all. Immediately before and throughout the early stages of World War Two the United States followed very isolationistic policies, including high tariffs (taxes on imported goods) which made trade very hard for European countries, including Germany, plunging them into an even deeper depression.
    It took a long time to get the United States into the war, and we most certainly did not jump at the opportunity. We only entered the war after the Japanese surprise attacked us at Pearl Harbor immediately before they declared themselves a part of the Axis.
    So... no.
    George Bushs Grandad sold millions of tonnes of steel to Nazi Germany in the thirtys, Hitler was able to build his war machine with it, so sorry the US did support Hitler, which was to create an enemy to justify creating their own war machine which would save the economy, which as you can see it did, until now anyway.
    Do you realise that Roosevelt and US Navy KNEW the Japanese wanted to attack and destroy the American Navy at Pearl Harbour and become the leading power at Sea in the Pacific, and they wanted it to happen, so they could justify going to war against Japan, this would also boost the economy, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs at home and overseas in the military.
    It would also mean they could go to war againbst Germany, despite the public being against that, as Germany would declare war on America as it was an axis partner of Japan, which is what happened.

    WW1 erupted from european powers wanting each others overseas possesions, and had been slowly brewing since the mid 19th Century towards its eruption in 1914.
    WW2 however was planned, and guys like Hitler and Stalin were bought into power, supported by overseas investers such as banks and big companies like Grandpa Bushes and played against each other, so the very rich at the top would benefit from the huge arms business.


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    Quote Quote by: Bright Garlick View Post
    Hey BB - good question 1 I think it's a numbers game. The US has one of the largest populations in the world, so statistically that shifts them to the right of the normal curve (excuse the pun). And also probably more Americans are connected to each other and information, via technology than any other race. Having said that maybe more Americans are also isolated than any one else. I think as well as that, the Christian foundation of their forefathers, has had a lot to do with a giant wave of backlashes and no doubt buuilding an empire on slavery and British Empire colonialism/Spanish/French colonialism, has to have played a role. But maybe it's simpler than that - perhaps people are more dissatisfied with their apparent FREEDOM, than in most nations.

    Worthy of a PHD thesis I'm sure. I hope the social policy theorists are taking note.
    Population size must certainly be in consideration. Albeit percentages equate for this when working with data from lesser populated regions. Australia would have significantly more cults getting off the ground if there were more people to feed them, we certainly do have some people with strange association patterns. So where population is concerned I can only agree with you.

    I think you will find China is more connected than any other country, followed by Japan.

    For some there would definately be some empire building, to be extremely successful in anything in the US all you need is 1 to 10% market share. Equate this to Australia and even with a 10% market share you would struggle to keep from floating out the back door.

    Certainly from data I have seen, loneliness, depression and anxiety are also significantly higher in the states by percentile. Cults feed on the lonely and depressed.

    There is certainly an element of rejection in it, rebelling against the status quo is something we learn as adolescents, some will rebel against perceived authority their entire life. Perhaps it is all the rules and regulations citizens of the US are forced to follow which is now making people rebel. For a free nation many US citizens believe that Governments stand over them, Churches stand over them, Theists stand over them, the list is sometimes endless, it even infiltrates their private corporate structures where many believe their peers are going to stab them in the back, to get one more step up the corporate ladder. When we look at King Henry (8) of England, he didn't like the churches rules so he rebelled, changed the rules and made his own religious cult.

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    Quote Quote by: brisbane buddy View Post
    When we look at King Henry (8) of England, he didn't like the churches rules so he rebelled, changed the rules and made his own religious cult.
    Cheers.
    The Church of England is hardly a religous cult.


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    Quote Quote by: Fallen Angel View Post
    England is the source, so you cant really count them can you..
    And the United States is a lot more diverse than Australia, New Zealand or any other British colonised land, as in not the different cultural make up, but the percentage numbers of certain cultures in the demograph.
    Fallen Angel the United States was co-colonised by the British and the Spanish, not to leave out the original indigenous people. The Anglo Saxon became the most dominant heritage but now only equates to approx. 25% of the population.

    The number of cultures doesn't change due to the number of people represented by each culture. One cultural heritage may have 100 million people in it, and another cultural heritage may only have 100 people in, this will only ever equate to two cultural heritages represented. The cultural heritage with the smallest number of people in it, has more chance of influencing change than the cultural heritage with the largest numbers in it up until the time a different cultural heritage has enough numbers in it to become the majority when they can force change.

    Cheers.


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    Quote Quote by: Fallen Angel View Post
    The Church of England is hardly a religous cult.
    LOL look up cults.

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    =brisbane buddy;606844]Fallen Angel the United States was co-colonised by the British and the Spanish, not to leave out the original indigenous people. The Anglo Saxon became the most dominant heritage but now only equates to approx. 25% of the population.
    Rubbish, it was colonised mostly by english people in its first 200 years of existance before the great expansion westwards, hardly co colonised with anyone, otherwise America would be a bi- lingual nation now, such as the state of Quebec in Canada.
    Anglo saxon/ British heritage in America accounts for presently 58% of the present population.

    The number of cultures doesn't change due to the number of people represented by each culture.
    Thats not really important, if one of the cultures has only a few hundred thousand, and the other has twenty odd million.
    One cultural heritage may have 100 million people in it, and another cultural heritage may only have 100 people in, this will only ever equate to two cultural heritages represented.
    Um no it accounts for a lot more than that LOL

    The cultural heritage with the smallest number of people in it, has more chance of influencing change than the cultural heritage with the largest numbers in it up until the time a different cultural heritage has enough numbers in it to become the majority when they can force change.
    Cheers.
    None of that made any sense.


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    Quote Quote by: brisbane buddy View Post
    LOL look up cults.
    Cheers.
    Look up world religons.

    Cheers.


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    Most cults don't present a danger to the public. They may even do us a favor by weeding out the truly mindless from the gene pool.
    Except the most perverse, pervasive and most destructive cult of all, "American Liberalism" which is designed to exponentially increase the truly mindless within the gene pool!


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    Quote Quote by: commonsense View Post
    Except the most perverse, pervasive and most destructive cult of all, "American Liberalism" which is designed to exponentially increase the truly mindless within the gene pool!
    the politically correct cult.


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    Quote Quote by: Sonart View Post
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    Yeah, I know... those guys Hitler, Stalin and Mao were nothing compared to the U.S. Heck, it's America's fault they're not speaking Japanese in Australia today, damn Yanks.

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    Yes yes.... it's all about the US and how the US saved the whole world from the evil nazis and japs..... no, no other nation had any involvement until the US jumped into the war...... (Being actually one of, if not the last country to actually jump in when everybody else was already starting to push back....only after you guys got attacked. I guess all that funding and dealing with the Nazis was just too good up until the Japanese screwed it all up, eh?)

    But back on topic, I could sum it up to being:

    • Cheap advertisement for anybody wanting to sell something
    • Wide range of immigrants.
    • A sucker born everyday.


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