China says Tibet video is 'a lie'

[Praxius]

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China says Tibet video is 'a lie'

China says video footage that purportedly shows Chinese security personnel violently beating Tibetans last year is "a lie".

The video apparently shows protesters being beaten with sticks, and kicked and choked by China's security forces.

The Tibetan government-in-exile says the footage shows China's "brutality".

But a Chinese government official said many of the images and voices in the video had been pieced together from different sources.

The video-sharing site YouTube has recently been blocked in China, which could be because the site had been carrying the contentious video......

Ok, I just watched the video and it wasn't thrown together from different sources... although the footage is grainy, it's not edited in any noticable fashion and looks pretty legit to me.... speaking as a professional video editor and the sort.

China can't explain this away, sorry to say.... and besides, I don't think people in Tibet have fancy computers and technology to edit the video as claimed.

Not to mention, but if anybody ever worked with low quality files, you will realize that once you start editing them, they turn to crap and the changes are very noticable.

[GeminiBrian]

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Ok, I just watched the video and it wasn't thrown together from different sources...

Chinese officials tried to say the same thing recently when some Western mountaineers / film-makers managed to smuggle out footage they took of Chinese border guards shooting at a group of Tibetans attempting to flee to India over the Himalayas, killing a 17 year old nun, and injuring others.

The Westerners' base-camp was nearby, but out of sight of the Chinese, so they were able to film the entire incident as it happened.

China always denies that they have a policy of shooting Tibetan 'escapees', but in this case they were caught in the act... a government spokesman tried, very lamely, to say the incident never happened.

Shame on them.

[brisbane buddy]

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China says Tibet video is 'a lie'



Ok, I just watched the video and it wasn't thrown together from different sources... although the footage is grainy, it's not edited in any noticable fashion and looks pretty legit to me.... speaking as a professional video editor and the sort.

China can't explain this away, sorry to say.... and besides, I don't think people in Tibet have fancy computers and technology to edit the video as claimed.

Not to mention, but if anybody ever worked with low quality files, you will realize that once you start editing them, they turn to crap and the changes are very noticable.

LOL China can explain anything away as long as the western world needs it to improve their economy and are too big of a military power for any nation to directly attack without serious repercussions.

China should get the hell out of Tibet, England should get the hell out of Ireland the list is endless. Each will have their own excuses for being there.

Cheers.

[GeminiBrian]

LOL China can explain anything away as long as the western world needs it to improve their economy and are too big of a military power for any nation to directly attack without serious repercussions.

China should get the hell out of Tibet, England should get the hell out of Ireland the list is endless. Each will have their own excuses for being there.

For once I agree with you, Buddy - so this is a day to remember...

You are entirely right on the Tibet issue, but I can't say I see the Northern Ireland situation in the same light, however, since you are badly out of date on the political front.

The British military presence in Northern Ireland (still a British province, by the way) is at an all-time low since the troubles began - that is not disputed by anybody... but look at what happened a couple of weeks ago - a splinter group of terrorists took it on themselves to kill two unarmed young soldiers - just to stir up the sort of strife they thrive on, and were duly condemned by 99% of the civilian population of the province, who have got used to peace at last.

That says to me that there are some minority elements still at work whose main agenda is to draw the military presence back in, so they can start once again to enjoy the bloody confrontations that only they want and miss.

Thankfully, they did not succeed, because popular opinion is dead set against them and their vicious, retrogressive agenda.

[brisbane buddy]

For once I agree with you, Buddy - so this is a day to remember...

You are entirely right on the Tibet issue, but I can't say I see the Northern Ireland situation in the same light, however, since you are badly out of date on the political front.

The British military presence in Northern Ireland (still a British province, by the way) is at an all-time low since the troubles began - that is not disputed by anybody... but look at what happened a couple of weeks ago - a splinter group of terrorists took it on themselves to kill two unarmed young soldiers - just to stir up the sort of strife they thrive on, and were duly condemned by 99% of the civilian population of the province, who have got used to peace at last.

That says to me that there are some minority elements still at work whose main agenda is to draw the military presence back in, so they can start once again to enjoy the bloody confrontations that only they want and miss.

Thankfully, they did not succeed, because popular opinion is dead set against them and their vicious, retrogressive agenda.

Pertaining to Ireland, spoken like a true Pommy Gemini, I wouldn't have expected anything less. China says similar pertaining to Tibet, It is those bloody monks who cause all the problems, and that militant figure the Dalai Lama.

England shouldn't have a province in Ireland.

Cheers.

[Hurt]

Unsurprising.

I love China.

[GeminiBrian]

Unsurprising.

I love China.

No problem with that - but you don't have to like the Chinese record on human rights violations, tyranny, lack of democracy and general brutal suppression of ethnic minorities and political dissidents alike, do you?

You don't think that a free-speech forum like Volconvo would be tolerated in China for one moment, either? ...

Try and see things as they really are, else there will never be an end to these evils.

[GeminiBrian]

Pertaining to Ireland, spoken like a true Pommy Gemini, I wouldn't have expected anything less. China says similar pertaining to Tibet, It is those bloody monks who cause all the problems, and that militant figure the Dalai Lama.

England shouldn't have a province in Ireland.

Slight problem with that, Buddy - the people of Northern Ireland themselves passionately want to remain British subjects - go check. They have no desire to be subsumed into the Republic - and who should force them to?

As for your "true Pommy" jibe - please read my post more carefully, and you will see that I am only advocating what the overwhelming majority of the Northern Irish agree with - the mood is for peace and stability, not more slaughter.

You are way behind the times, I'm afraid, Buddy.

[Matt W]

Move on and stick to the topic, please.
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[brisbane buddy]

Yeah Gemini that is what the chinese say too. They say Tibet was always and will always be part of china. It is similar to the Poms, most in northern Ireland are Orange, not Green.

Cheers.

[GeminiBrian]

Yeah Gemini that is what the chinese say too. They say Tibet was always and will always be part of china. It is similar to the Poms, most in northern Ireland are Orange, not Green.

You can't seriously be saying that Tibetans actually want to remain under Chinese subjugation, surely, as your green/orange thing would seem to imply?

(I think that's back on topic enough?)

[grandpa]

You can't seriously be saying that Tibetans actually want to
remain under Chinese subjugation...

The ruling regime has no use for egalitarianism.

Grandpa h.