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ShadowFox · Jul 25, 2008, 02:43 am

Iraq banned from Summer Olympics - CNN.com

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A few months ago, it seemed liked nothing could stop Iraqi sprinter Dana Hussain from representing her country in the upcoming Summer Olympics.

Then, the International Olympic Committee banned Iraq from competing because of what it says is the government's political interference in sports.

Hussain cried for hours after hearing the news, which arrived in the form of a letter to Iraqi officials.

"She hasn't stopped. It's like finding out that a close relative has died," said her coach, Yousif Abdul Rahman.

Abdul Rahman attempted to console Hussain by assuring her that she could compete in the 2012 Olympics.

Interesting. Do you think they should be allowed to compete? Or do you agree with the decision? Or something else? Please read the entire article first though.

Hurt · Jul 25, 2008, 04:55 pm

-sigh-

I don't see China getting banned. This is ridiculous.

Thanatos · Jul 27, 2008, 12:31 pm

Oh come on. I hope CNN makes this into a big enough stink that the Olympic Committee has to let her back in.

Aussie · Jul 27, 2008, 07:42 pm

So bring a team of drug cheats like China did in the swimming - fine, change your officials, your banned. Yeah, makes a whole lot of sense.

GHook93 · Jul 27, 2008, 07:50 pm

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Quote by: Halofan48

Iraq banned from Summer Olympics - CNN.com

Interesting. Do you think they should be allowed to compete? Or do you agree with the decision? Or something else? Please read the entire article first though.

Yes they should compete. It is ridiculous. I guarantee many of the countries in the 3rd world are far worse. The atrocities to the athletes mainly occurred during Sadam's 2 lovely sons reign over the Iraqi athletes. And if they want to sit on their high horse about human rights, then why the he11 did they give the games to human rights mega-violator China?

Honestly I think this is the Olympics community trying to take a shot indirectly at the US!

Hurt · Jul 27, 2008, 08:03 pm

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Yes they should compete. It is ridiculous. I guarantee many of the countries in the 3rd world are far worse. The atrocities to the athletes mainly occurred during Sadam's 2 lovely sons reign over the Iraqi athletes. And if they want to sit on their high horse about human rights, then why the he11 did they give the games to human rights mega-violator China?

Honestly I think this is the Olympics community trying to take a shot indirectly at the US!

More like not offending China.

GHook93 · Jul 27, 2008, 08:07 pm

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Quote by: Hurt

More like not offending China.

Why would it offend China to allow the Iraqis to come to the olympics?

Dan_77 · Jul 27, 2008, 10:29 pm

What a joke. The Olympics have never really been about the sports, but about rewarding totalitarian societies for pushing their youth like prized race horses.

To give some insight into what the Olympics are really all about, founder of the modern Olympics, Pierre de Coubertin, said that the 1936 Berlin games (the "Nazi" Olympics) had lived up to his highest ideals of what the Olympics should be, and that Hitler had "magnificently served, and by no means disfigured, the Olympic ideal."

Yeah, there's a guy we still want to be honoring...

ShadowFox · Jul 27, 2008, 11:52 pm

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Quote by: tivodan1116

What a joke. The Olympics have never really been about the sports, but about rewarding totalitarian societies for pushing their youth like prized race horses.

To give some insight into what the Olympics are really all about, founder of the modern Olympics, Pierre de Coubertin, said that the 1936 Berlin games (the "Nazi" Olympics) had lived up to his highest ideals of what the Olympics should be, and that Hitler had "magnificently served, and by no means disfigured, the Olympic ideal."

Yeah, there's a guy we still want to be honoring...

Didn't the U.S. not lower our flag or something there when the rest of the world did? It was something like that if i remember.

Dan_77 · Jul 28, 2008, 05:07 pm

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Didn't the U.S. not lower our flag or something there when the rest of the world did? It was something like that if i remember.

We never do. Our rule is we don't dip our flag for anyone.

Watch next week on the opening ceremonies. Every flag will dip as it passes by the box of the Chinese leaders except ours.

Hurt · Jul 28, 2008, 10:24 pm

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Quote by: GHook93

Why would it offend China to allow the Iraqis to come to the olympics?

I meant not letting China go, not the Iraqis.

Aussie · Jul 29, 2008, 09:11 pm

Looks like the IOC has bowed to pressure
IOC lifts Iraq's Beijing ban - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

The Olympics is just a joke now. Seriously, why not just put em all on roids and make it a level playing field. If a high profile star like Marian Jones will do it, anyone will (and does).

berrydune · Jul 30, 2008, 03:36 am

sheesh, they are quick to change minds. frustrating. now i don't want to watch the olympics.

shawmutt · Jul 30, 2008, 06:50 am

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sheesh, they are quick to change minds. frustrating. now i don't want to watch the olympics.

You mean people actually watch the Olympics? The only thing I can stomach is the woman's volleyball--and I still wish they'd play it on the beach.

ironeagle · Aug 4, 2008, 06:52 pm

Only countries who follow certain guidlines are supposed to be allowed into the games since niether China nor Iraq have meet those guidlines they have no right to compete.

Thanatos · Aug 4, 2008, 10:35 pm

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You mean people actually watch the Olympics? The only thing I can stomach is the woman's volleyball--and I still wish they'd play it on the beach.

I always watch curling religiously. Yeah, I'm weird.

thebuescherman · Aug 5, 2008, 03:04 am

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I always watch curling religiously. Yeah, I'm weird.

I have no clue why, but the sport fascinates me. It seems to be a sport completely lacking appeal, but I find it so much easier to watch then baseball.

Sweet Katie · Aug 21, 2008, 10:34 pm

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Quote by: Halofan48

Iraq banned from Summer Olympics - CNN.com

Interesting. Do you think they should be allowed to compete? Or do you agree with the decision? Or something else? Please read the entire article first though.

Very interesting indeed! It reads as though the IOC is behaving like a bully, although the rules and regulations put in place by the IOC is (undoubtedly) to ensure that Olympic fraud doesn't occur. Like, for example, underage competitors winning medals in -- oh, let's say -- woman's gymnastics.

Like most large infrastructures, it appears that the IOC appears to be swarmed in pencil-pushing paperwork and politics.

Sweet Katie · Aug 21, 2008, 10:41 pm

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Quote by: tivodan1116

What a joke. The Olympics have never really been about the sports, but about rewarding totalitarian societies for pushing their youth like prized race horses.

To give some insight into what the Olympics are really all about, founder of the modern Olympics, Pierre de Coubertin, said that the 1936 Berlin games (the "Nazi" Olympics) had lived up to his highest ideals of what the Olympics should be, and that Hitler had "magnificently served, and by no means disfigured, the Olympic ideal."

Yeah, there's a guy we still want to be honoring...

You are misinformed here, my friend.

The Olympics is a way for the national community to gather in a spirit of competition. The Olympics allow the citizens of the world to witness the best athletes the world has to offer. Although I am an American, I got goosebumps watching the Jamaicans! Furthermore, the Olympics breaks down barriers, allowing people to see folks from other countries as individuals, not strangers out to harm them.

ironeagle · Sep 22, 2008, 04:05 am

People should compete when they have free choice. People who are commanded by their government should not be allowed to compete, because it kills the spirit of games, they rae suppose to be voluntary fun and achievment , not forced on people. That is why the Olympics have formed rules about how countries must act in order to participate.

Jul 27, 2008, 12:31 pm	#3 (permalink)
Thanatos Arbiter of Weird Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,753	Oh come on. I hope CNN makes this into a big enough stink that the Olympic Committee has to let her back in. Destroying America one Volconvo post at a time. The brain is like a muscle. When it is in use we feel very good. Understanding is joyous.

Jul 27, 2008, 07:42 pm	#4 (permalink)
Aussie Hot Lava Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 1,158	So bring a team of drug cheats like China did in the swimming - fine, change your officials, your banned. Yeah, makes a whole lot of sense. I reject your reality and insert my own!

Jul 27, 2008, 10:29 pm	#8 (permalink)
Dan_77 Esquire Location: NY Posts: 3,259	What a joke. The Olympics have never really been about the sports, but about rewarding totalitarian societies for pushing their youth like prized race horses. To give some insight into what the Olympics are really all about, founder of the modern Olympics, Pierre de Coubertin, said that the 1936 Berlin games (the "Nazi" Olympics) had lived up to his highest ideals of what the Olympics should be, and that Hitler had "magnificently served, and by no means disfigured, the Olympic ideal." Yeah, there's a guy we still want to be honoring... "But it wasn't until he met his beautiful wife that he learned using logic and reason isn't enough. You have to be a dick to everyone who doesn't think like you." - South Park on Richard Dawkins

Jul 29, 2008, 09:11 pm	#12 (permalink)
Aussie Hot Lava Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 1,158	Looks like the IOC has bowed to pressure IOC lifts Iraq's Beijing ban - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) The Olympics is just a joke now. Seriously, why not just put em all on roids and make it a level playing field. If a high profile star like Marian Jones will do it, anyone will (and does). I reject your reality and insert my own!

Aug 4, 2008, 06:52 pm	#15 (permalink)
ironeagle Ncp Rights Activist Location: Iowa Posts: 1,477	Only countries who follow certain guidlines are supposed to be allowed into the games since niether China nor Iraq have meet those guidlines they have no right to compete. Saving the empovershed by empoverishing their counterparts will empoverish the whole.

Jul 25, 2008, 04:55 pm	#2 (permalink)
Hurt le tired Posts: 594	-sigh- I don't see China getting banned. This is ridiculous.

Jul 30, 2008, 03:36 am	#13 (permalink)
berrydune Sedimentary Rock Posts: 4	sheesh, they are quick to change minds. frustrating. now i don't want to watch the olympics.

Sep 22, 2008, 04:05 am	#20 (permalink)
ironeagle Ncp Rights Activist Location: Iowa Posts: 1,477	People should compete when they have free choice. People who are commanded by their government should not be allowed to compete, because it kills the spirit of games, they rae suppose to be voluntary fun and achievment , not forced on people. That is why the Olympics have formed rules about how countries must act in order to participate. Saving the empovershed by empoverishing their counterparts will empoverish the whole.