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Old Aug 10, 2008, 07:24 pm   #41 (permalink)
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But it will, and has happened many times. It is ok with me, I would like to pay 2 $ a gallon once we tap and take their oil. As well as the gold, coal seams and tourism dollars. Mexico can be ten more states, tax them, and force civility upon them. They live in shacks with no running water, are afraid to flush their toliets for fear of overflows.
They are barbaric and need to be dragged into this century. No more living ten to a room. It is disgusting.
Why not conquer them with our corporations and milk them for every drop of cheap labor and natural resources they have to power the gaping maw of the world economy?

I meant it when I said we're not Nazi Germany and race was only part of it; really we aren't. We're klutzes at the whole military imperialism thing. We're more like vampires. The Mexicans did nationalize their oil industry but we've maneuvered other nations into denationalizing before. Wait for or stage a crisis to make it look like they need to change and the businesses will get in. Works every time.

Do not pretend to want to help them. You don't, and not just because I doubt charity would be the first thing in the mind of an open racist during the war. Find everything in your house that was made in Mexico or one of our other satellites and throw it out. Demand that anything new you buy is fair trade certified.


I think it goes without saying the any suggestion to invade Canada is mind-numbingly stupid.
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Old Aug 10, 2008, 10:19 pm   #42 (permalink)
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But it will, and has happened many times. It is ok with me, I would like to pay 2 $ a gallon once we tap and take their oil. As well as the gold, coal seams and tourism dollars. Mexico can be ten more states, tax them, and force civility upon them. They live in shacks with no running water, are afraid to flush their toliets for fear of overflows.
They are barbaric and need to be dragged into this century. No more living ten to a room. It is disgusting.
I thought Rudyard Kipling said it better, and a little more compassionately.


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Old Aug 14, 2008, 02:45 am   #43 (permalink)
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Yeah but if the Mexicans don't want to live in Mexico anymore and want to live here instead why would we need to kill anyone to take over Mexico? Since most of them live here now is there even anyone left there to fight? I don't think adding Mexico to the US would be bad, we could offer the citizens freedom, reasonable minimum wages ( more reasonable than they have anyways) we can make all those runaway corporations pay fair wages again. Plus we would have more adequate land for all the people. If we got our budget back together we could build schools for their children and have a better chance to fight drugs being run out of Columbia.


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Old Aug 14, 2008, 08:03 pm   #44 (permalink)
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This thread comes up in google search about Mexicans staring, and the subject is addressed in other forums like this one. Is it the same person asking the question in several forums, and many people asking the same question?

When I asked a friend why some Mexicans were staring at me, he pointed out, when I reached up to wash the tops of windows, by blouse went up. whoops.

I think perhaps whites are more apt to be taught that staring is wrong, and that Mexicans are taught this same inhibition, and it also seems young people are more apt to stare and talk to friends about what they are staring at. I would consider this a social behavior, that we are less apt to engage in, when our lives get busier and we have other things on our minds than ourselves and our position with our friends.
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Old Aug 14, 2008, 09:44 pm   #45 (permalink)
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SisterTwisted:

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Damn.

I was under the impression that American Imperialism was dead.

My mistake.

However, for the sake of a theoretical discussion about warfare, which I enjoy immensely...

Such an act would immediately lose the Estados Unidos/Idiotos the vast majority of whatever support remains for them in the UN.

Good luck with that, kid.

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Old Aug 15, 2008, 11:47 am   #46 (permalink)
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About that racism-

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White majority on the way out in US - Scotsman.com NewsAug 15, 2008 ... White majority on the way out in US - WHITE people will no longer make up a majority of Americans by 2042, according to new US government ...
news.scotsman.com/world?articleid=4394069 - 46k - 15 hours ago - Cached - Similar pages
If we still have lousy racial relationships in 2042, it will be the Whites who suffer the most because they will be the minority.

The original purpose of government mandated, free public education, was to teach youth a set of American values and democratic principles, and what it means to be good citizens. This was ended in 1958 and we now have an amoral society, with people centered on self interest rather than shared values and democratic principles. Not only will Whites no longer be the majority, but they will not be able to control the culture in which they live, unless they regain an understanding of the original purpose of government mandated, free public education and return to the humanities and transmitting their culture that was based Greek and Roman classics. I am afraid we will not have rule by law, but rule by fist and weapons as racial conflict becomes more intense. Or are younger people already free of racial conflicts?
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Old Aug 15, 2008, 03:03 pm   #47 (permalink)
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Though some of you may call me a racist, the fact is I'm just making an observation.

This happens often when I'm in a public place: the grocery store, the mall, on the street. They do it in packs and it makes me uncomfortable.

For whatever reason, Hispanics feel the need to stare at me.
It's as if they've never seen a white person before.
I can understand starring at some 'hot mama' as I sometimes do. But they regularly stare at me :I'm just a normal white guy. I've talked to other people and they have shared with me a similar experience. It's quite creepy.

They usually have a disgustingly smug look on their face, as if to say "hey buddy, how do you like it now, we are in your country, and there's nothing you can do about it."

I'm not saying its all Hispanics, just many of them.
If Mexicans are actually staring at you maybe it's because they see you as a threat. They are here after all illegally, and maybe they stare to see if you are ICE and preparing to arrest them.

Mexicans living here live in constant fear of being arrested and sent back to Mexico. Furthermore it happens all of the time, so their fears aren't without foundation. I'll bet they inspect anyone who looks even slightly like a cop.

I'll bet they aren't aware that they are staring at you. You are after all as strange to them as they are to you.

Anyway I wouldn't worry about it. You might start learning Spanish however.
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Old Aug 15, 2008, 03:22 pm   #48 (permalink)
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If Mexicans are actually staring at you maybe it's because they see you as a threat. They are here after all illegally, and maybe they stare to see if you are ICE and preparing to arrest them.

Mexicans living here live in constant fear of being arrested and sent back to Mexico. Furthermore it happens all of the time, so their fears aren't without foundation. I'll bet they inspect anyone who looks even slightly like a cop.

I'll bet they aren't aware that they are staring at you. You are after all as strange to them as they are to you.

Anyway I wouldn't worry about it. You might start learning Spanish however.
Um, not all mexicans are illegal. Also, not all illegals are mexican.


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Old Aug 15, 2008, 03:29 pm   #49 (permalink)
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Um, not all mexicans are illegal. Also, not all illegals are mexican.
This is true. But the premise of my post is correct. You are nit picking to avoid the question at hand. Which is: many Mexicans are here illegally and they may stare at folks because they fear being arrested and deported.

I agree that many Hispanics are not Mexicans, but the lions share are. Also I agree that there are other groups that make up illegal aliens, but most of them are Mexicans.
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Old Aug 15, 2008, 03:51 pm   #50 (permalink)
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Again. Cry me a Rio Grande. I dont care if Mexico blows up .As long as the beaches are still there.
They wont have this country. I promise you that. Never. Mexico is Americas B****
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Old Aug 15, 2008, 03:58 pm   #51 (permalink)
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Again. Cry me a Rio Grande. I dont care if Mexico blows up .As long as the beaches are still there.
They wont have this country. I promise you that. Never. Mexico is Americas B****
Funny, recent predictions show that by 2042, whites will be the minority here. Sorry if that bothers you. Here, let me get you the link: White Americans no longer a majority by 2042 - Yahoo! News
You can find this article on most news sites BTW.

Look, I don't know why you (seem) to harbor such anger towards mexicans, but i can tell you right now, we will not invade mexico. If we tried, the world would hate us even more, which would cause more problems.


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Old Aug 15, 2008, 04:23 pm   #52 (permalink)
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Funny, recent predictions show that by 2042, whites will be the minority here. Sorry if that bothers you. Here, let me get you the link: White Americans no longer a majority by 2042 - Yahoo! News
You can find this article on most news sites BTW.

Look, I don't know why you (seem) to harbor such anger towards mexicans, but i can tell you right now, we will not invade mexico. If we tried, the world would hate us even more, which would cause more problems.

Here it goes again. I reel back into this site to offer my comments and am assaulted by haters. I never said that I hate Mexicans. I simply stated that they make up most illegal aliens, which is also true. I also said that they live in fear of being deported, which is true.

Indeed white folks will be in the minority eventually. So what? We started out as the minority too didn't we.

As soon as the liberals perceive a conservative posting here they sharpen their knives and attack. Which if course, takes all the fun out of posting here.
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Old Aug 15, 2008, 04:25 pm   #53 (permalink)
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Here it goes again. I reel back into this site to offer my comments and am assaulted by haters. I never said that I hate Mexicans. I simply stated that they make up most illegal aliens, which is also true. I also said that they live in fear of being deported, which is true.

Indeed white folks will be in the minority eventually. So what? We started out as the minority too didn't we.

As soon as the liberals perceive a conservative posting here they sharpen their knives and attack. Which if course, takes all the fun out of posting here.
Um, you did see who i quoted right? I was responding to Sister Twisted, not you.


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Old Aug 15, 2008, 04:45 pm   #54 (permalink)
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Um, you did see who i quoted right? I was responding to Sister Twisted, not you.

Oh, sorry.
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Old Aug 15, 2008, 05:04 pm   #55 (permalink)
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Oh, sorry.
It's ok, we all make mistakes.


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Old Aug 15, 2008, 08:48 pm   #56 (permalink)
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first of all, are any of the people why have posted on here even hispanic?
because the way it appears to me, they arent.
and as a hispanic person, i must say i am greatly offended at what some of you have said.
you are stereotyping all hispanics to be hostile monsters who are in gangs or are illegal immigrants or thiefs and criminals!
chingas tu para pensar eso.
maybe its that you are predisposed to discriminate against mexicans. maybe its that you pick them out of a crowd and think they are staring at you in a hostile manner, when they really arent. you are probably making too much out of the situation and twisting things around.
so when you say youre not racist...well, you may want to rethink that.
*shakes head and sighs* what i dont get is why people have such anger towards hispanic people...
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Old Aug 15, 2008, 09:17 pm   #57 (permalink)
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first of all, are any of the people why have posted on here even hispanic?
because the way it appears to me, they arent.
and as a hispanic person, i must say i am greatly offended at what some of you have said.
you are stereotyping all hispanics to be hostile monsters who are in gangs or are illegal immigrants or thiefs and criminals!
chingas tu para pensar eso.
maybe its that you are predisposed to discriminate against mexicans. maybe its that you pick them out of a crowd and think they are staring at you in a hostile manner, when they really arent. you are probably making too much out of the situation and twisting things around.
so when you say youre not racist...well, you may want to rethink that.
*shakes head and sighs* what i dont get is why people have such anger towards hispanic people...
Well, i can't seem to find to much against hispanics dating back before the civil rights movement. Maybe the hatred just shifted to the hispanics once it became wrong to hate blacks. But then again, i may of just missed it. As for some of the people here, don't let them get you too upset. Some are probably just trolling.


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Old Aug 16, 2008, 11:06 am   #58 (permalink)
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first of all, are any of the people why have posted on here even hispanic?
because the way it appears to me, they arent.
and as a hispanic person, i must say i am greatly offended at what some of you have said.
you are stereotyping all hispanics to be hostile monsters who are in gangs or are illegal immigrants or thiefs and criminals!
chingas tu para pensar eso.
maybe its that you are predisposed to discriminate against mexicans. maybe its that you pick them out of a crowd and think they are staring at you in a hostile manner, when they really arent. you are probably making too much out of the situation and twisting things around.
so when you say youre not racist...well, you may want to rethink that.
*shakes head and sighs* what i dont get is why people have such anger towards hispanic people...
Thank you. I was hoping someone who is hispanic would show up, and raise awareness of the offensive remarks made here. I like to live by 3 simple rules

We are respectful, because we are respectful people.
We protect the dignity of others.
We act with integrity.

When people do not live by these rules, I do not think very highly of them. Of course this makes me the target of people's negative feelings, but I keep hoping someday we will have better understanding and with better understanding will be guided with better reasoning in our relationships with others.

Young hispanics who violate our customs and laws get our attention, and rarely do the ones who are leaders of organizations, or in politics, get our attention. Another problem is Whites will become a minorty in their own country soon and this is threatening to people who do not understand the value of good manners, and think being insulting and attacking others is smart.

Secondly, People who blend in just don't get attention, so there is a distortion in what believe is so.

It appears to me, there are some people posting, who thrive on being mean. They are throwing stones, but other than saying mean things about someone, they really don't seem to have anything of value to say. This appears to be a common social behavior. And to be fair about this- citizens of the US have face much criticism and perescution around the world. Right? Verbally attacking others is just something people do. People by nature form groups, and decide who is "one of us" and "who is one of them", and then treat "them", in ways we would not to be treated. It appears to be make people much more popular when they attack others, than when they say good manners and high values are important.
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first of all, are any of the people why have posted on here even hispanic?
because the way it appears to me, they arent.
and as a hispanic person, i must say i am greatly offended at what some of you have said.
you are stereotyping all hispanics to be hostile monsters who are in gangs or are illegal immigrants or thiefs and criminals!
chingas tu para pensar eso.
maybe its that you are predisposed to discriminate against mexicans. maybe its that you pick them out of a crowd and think they are staring at you in a hostile manner, when they really arent. you are probably making too much out of the situation and twisting things around.
so when you say youre not racist...well, you may want to rethink that.
*shakes head and sighs* what i dont get is why people have such anger towards hispanic people...
Learn to not take offense so easily. Now that you live in America you have to understand our freedoms. One of which is the freedom of speech. We can, therefore; by dictum say what we please. If you take offense so easily then be prepared to be offended most of the time.

Furthermore we said nothing of the kind....(as you posted). Here's what I'm saying: Many (most actually; who weren't born here) Mexicans are here illegally. Many are also scared that they will be arrested and sent home. This fear may cause some to stare at non-hispanic folks living here. Many of the Mexicans who have come here commit crimes, but certainly most do not. However, coming here illegally is of its self a criminal act.

Fact is there should be a process that is legal to allow Mexicans, and other folks too, to immigrate. What we should do with the millions and millions of who are already here and are also here illegally is a quandry. We can't just round those folks up and send'm home...can we? That'd sure be a mess.

In closing, I wish that Mexicans and other immigrants would obey our laws, and I wish that our laws were better at addressing the immigration problem, but that requires an effective government. We have a seriously flawed government.
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Old Aug 16, 2008, 03:17 pm   #60 (permalink)
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Learn to not take offense so easily. Now that you live in America you have to understand our freedoms. One of which is the freedom of speech. We can, therefore; by dictum say what we please. If you take offense so easily then be prepared to be offended most of the time.

Furthermore we said nothing of the kind....(as you posted). Here's what I'm saying: Many (most actually; who weren't born here) Mexicans are here illegally. Many are also scared that they will be arrested and sent home. This fear may cause some to stare at non-hispanic folks living here. Many of the Mexicans who have come here commit crimes, but certainly most do not. However, coming here illegally is of its self a criminal act.

Fact is there should be a process that is legal to allow Mexicans, and other folks too, to immigrate. What we should do with the millions and millions of who are already here and are also here illegally is a quandry. We can't just round those folks up and send'm home...can we? That'd sure be a mess.

In closing, I wish that Mexicans and other immigrants would obey our laws, and I wish that our laws were better at addressing the immigration problem, but that requires an effective government. We have a seriously flawed government.
Excuse me, freedom of speech did not mean bad manners and insulting people. Our freedom of speech was based on ideals of good manners and morals and stressing human dignity.

"Democracy is a way of life and social organization which above all others is sensitive to the dignity and worth of the individual human personality, affirming the fundament moral and political equality of all men and recognizing no barriers of race, religion, or circumstance." Congress on Education for Democracy, August, 1939.

Social Security is based on age, not need, to protect the dignity of older people. We educated for a different culture than the one we have today, and while some things have improved, in many ways the US is in moral decay. Soon Whites will be in the minority in the US and if they continue to be morally careless and bad mannered, they come to regret thier careless words and behaviors.

Perhaps this is a male verses female thing, as I have noticed in all forums on the internet, males speak of
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, and females are more apt to speak of the need to be well mannered. However, mostly the forums are male dominated, and very often there are no long term females, unless they are as offensive as the males. I don't think women were liberated, because we have made it taboo to be feminine, and perfectly okay to offend males and females, especially those of who speak of morals. We have made it okay to attack and act as if someone is offended it is the offended person's problem, not the offensive person's bad manners that needs to be corrected. What is with this? Since when did being offense and ill mannered become okay? It has, but how and when?

I don't think the objection to Mexicans is just a legal matter. It is a cultural matter as well. Their customs are different and sometimes they do not behave as we expect to behave, and that makes "one of those people, not one of us", so we are going to protect what is our's from them. Just as long ago, we protected this land from those Chinese and those Japanese and those Indians.

This thread goes well with the one asking why people don't like Americans.
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