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Mr.Vicchio · Jul 27, 2004, 09:23 am

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http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:store...re/ihadabt.html

They have finally arrived!

Planned Parenthood is proud to offer yet another t-shirt in our new social fashion line: "I Had an Abortion" fitted T-shirts are now available. These soft and comfortable fitted tees assert a powerful message in support of women's rights.

Order yours for $15 each.

This IMHO is why planned parenthood should be cut off from any govenrment spending. This is sickinging IMHO. The T-Shirt should read "I killed my baby and I am PROUD OF IT!"

Sick is what this is.

castille · Jul 27, 2004, 09:28 am

I once had a black t-shirt, that had the word "Pube" on it. I put on a black pant, black shoes, and black hat and went as my Halloween character.

kharmajunkie · Jul 27, 2004, 12:31 pm

The shirt should say "I had an abortion and all I got was this stupid
t-shirt... and some some blood spotting".

prettyredhead · Jul 27, 2004, 12:56 pm

Better yet, I aborted my baby to give life to thousands of kids already born, and my abortion will give one a better chance to be adopted first.
Or, "I aborted my baby, so that I would not have to sell it to a wealthy couple, who wont adopt a child already born."
Or, "Abortion stops the legal sale of babies"
Or, "adoption stops abortion"

How can anyone think that aborted kids are better, or more valuable than already alive and breathing, and parentless kids.?
You are the one who is sick.
They would rather buy a foreign baby than to adopt a parentless american baby.
How about

" I buy Romanian"
"I buy Russian"
" I buy Chinese"
" I dont want an American kid"

STOP trying to debate abortion on this site. It will never, ever be agreed upon. We are up to our assholes in foster kids, with not nearly enough homes for them.
Why cant people who want to adopt, and are unable to find a suitable baby to buy, just foster to get their rocks off.
I remember why....they are "damaged" and dont deserve a home I suppose. After all, over 5 is too old to love.

GGRRRRRRRRRRR

m5lange1 · Jul 27, 2004, 01:03 pm

I have seen many inflamitory T-shirts:

"Kill a fag for Christ" comes to mind.
"Meat Stinks"
"Got Salmonella"
"I've got two mommies"

I am of the opinion that all of these, including the 'abortion' shirt mentioned above, are more to provoke opponents than to support rights.

I think the most offensive one I saw was at a bicycle race when a patron (big fat ugly guy) wearing one that said "Fuck you" on the front and "Any Questions?" on the back. Really tempted me to go up and smack him and then see how far he chased me before he collapesed.

In any case I do have a daughter and while I would prefer she did not wear any of that crap, it is not something I really worry about.

Jeff · Jul 27, 2004, 01:07 pm

I don’t guess that the 14 and 15 year olds that do not even have to notify their parents before making this life changing decision will not use this as the icebreaker. I am still looking for that right to privacy cite in the constitution so that I can better understand this.

waterfalllife · Jul 27, 2004, 01:18 pm

I guess its better than:

"I hotrodded around with tons of guys having unprotected sex cause I thought I was to cool to get pregnant, but now will have the child and live on welfare and tax money my entire life while working at K-Mart."

Its got a better ring to it IMHO.

Gorgo · Jul 27, 2004, 01:48 pm

I'm all for it, although, this society is so backward that I can't see too many people wearing it.

I think I'd rather see her wear that t-shirt than one that says, "JESUS SAVES" or "VOTE FOR BUSH" or, "I WANT TO KEEP MY BABY ALTHOUGH MY BABY'S DADDY IS IN IRAQ AND WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GET MARRIED."

PatrickHenry · Jul 27, 2004, 02:33 pm

Mr.V: I agree, it's sick. Why is abortion a means of contraception? Why can't people who don't want babies just use some precautions? The "heat of the moment?" Give me a break...

prettyredhead · Jul 27, 2004, 03:50 pm

It isnt like it is meant as birth control, but it is available, should b/c fail.
Please stop.....
Kids like sex. And will always have it. Safe, unsafe, whatever.
That 400 dollar dress you bought for prom usually ends up in a heap on the motel room floor. Or hiked up in the backseat. Good girls have sex too.
You'll sing a different tune when its your girl that comes home at 14 pregnant. Believe me. Or would you rather start over and raise another kid>?
Let her ruin her life? I doubt you would...

Mr.Vicchio · Jul 27, 2004, 04:19 pm

On another forum, someone posted this:

At least this way you can more easily spot the girls that are loose

I thought that was the worst reply to this t-shirt so far.
How anyone could find wearing a T-Shirt about murder to be a good thing is beyond me.

Gorgo · Jul 27, 2004, 04:25 pm

Yes, but people will put up all kinds of signs telling me to vote for murderers like George Bush while they're telling women that they value women's lives so much they want to make all their decisions for them.

Liberty Landing · Jul 27, 2004, 04:35 pm

Supporting abortion rights is one thing. Openly advertising the fact that you had one is another.

This shirt is just plain bad taste. Abortions are something you're supposed to be ashamed of having, not something you're supposed to openly advertise.

The "loose girls" comment is 100% accurate. That's the only way people who wear this ridiculous POS should be viewed.

Gorgo · Jul 27, 2004, 04:56 pm

Ashamed? Why are you ashamed of sex?

Mr.Vicchio · Jul 27, 2004, 05:11 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Gorgo,
Ashamed? Why are you ashamed of sex?

Thats not what he siad, what he said was people that wear that shirt should be ashamaed they had to resort to murdering an innocent because they refused to take responsibility for thier own actions.

has nothing to do with sex.

Gorgo · Jul 27, 2004, 05:22 pm

Abortion is taking responsibility for one's actions.

Liberty Landing · Jul 27, 2004, 05:23 pm

Abortion is a convenient escape. Carrying a child to term and raising it into a loving, well-adjusted adult is taking responsibility for one's actions -- i.e., the action of having sex.

I don't exactly see how just wiping out a problem counts as "taking responsibility."

Mr.Vicchio · Jul 27, 2004, 05:30 pm

Abortion is escaping responsibility by murder.

So Gorgo, if your 15 year old daughter, came to you and said "Dad, I got pregnant, but I had an abortion!" You would give her a raise and tell her what a good girl shes been?

manik · Jul 27, 2004, 05:47 pm

Obviously not, but a lot of people don't have the option of rasing a child in well-adjusted, loving household...

Liberty Landing · Jul 27, 2004, 05:55 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by manik,
Obviously not, but a lot of people don't have the option of rasing a child in well-adjusted, loving household...

In which case it is justifiable -- but that still doesn't mean it is "responsible."

Jul 27, 2004, 09:28 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	I once had a black t-shirt, that had the word "Pube" on it. I put on a black pant, black shoes, and black hat and went as my Halloween character. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Jul 27, 2004, 12:31 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
kharmajunkie year of the monkey Location: Milwaukee, Wi Posts: 663	The shirt should say "I had an abortion and all I got was this stupid t-shirt... and some some blood spotting". Sanity is the playground of the unimaginative. anonomous Words we say, never seem to live up to the ones inside our heads. Chris Cornell

Jul 27, 2004, 01:03 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
m5lange1 Igneous Magma Posts: 649	I have seen many inflamitory T-shirts: "Kill a fag for Christ" comes to mind. "Meat Stinks" "Got Salmonella" "I've got two mommies" I am of the opinion that all of these, including the 'abortion' shirt mentioned above, are more to provoke opponents than to support rights. I think the most offensive one I saw was at a bicycle race when a patron (big fat ugly guy) wearing one that said "Fuck you" on the front and "Any Questions?" on the back. Really tempted me to go up and smack him and then see how far he chased me before he collapesed. In any case I do have a daughter and while I would prefer she did not wear any of that crap, it is not something I really worry about. Protester against the culture war!!!!

Jul 27, 2004, 01:18 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
waterfalllife Molten Ash Posts: 143	I guess its better than: "I hotrodded around with tons of guys having unprotected sex cause I thought I was to cool to get pregnant, but now will have the child and live on welfare and tax money my entire life while working at K-Mart." Its got a better ring to it IMHO. "The reason we can't find a relationship between the Constitution and the government is that there is none." -Michael Badnarik

Jul 27, 2004, 02:33 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,438	Mr.V: I agree, it's sick. Why is abortion a means of contraception? Why can't people who don't want babies just use some precautions? The "heat of the moment?" Give me a break... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Jul 27, 2004, 12:56 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
prettyredhead Igneous Magma Posts: 336	Better yet, I aborted my baby to give life to thousands of kids already born, and my abortion will give one a better chance to be adopted first. Or, "I aborted my baby, so that I would not have to sell it to a wealthy couple, who wont adopt a child already born." Or, "Abortion stops the legal sale of babies" Or, "adoption stops abortion" How can anyone think that aborted kids are better, or more valuable than already alive and breathing, and parentless kids.? You are the one who is sick. They would rather buy a foreign baby than to adopt a parentless american baby. How about " I buy Romanian" "I buy Russian" " I buy Chinese" " I dont want an American kid" STOP trying to debate abortion on this site. It will never, ever be agreed upon. We are up to our assholes in foster kids, with not nearly enough homes for them. Why cant people who want to adopt, and are unable to find a suitable baby to buy, just foster to get their rocks off. I remember why....they are "damaged" and dont deserve a home I suppose. After all, over 5 is too old to love. GGRRRRRRRRRRR

Jul 27, 2004, 01:07 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Jeff Molten Ash Location: Texas Posts: 101	I don’t guess that the 14 and 15 year olds that do not even have to notify their parents before making this life changing decision will not use this as the icebreaker. I am still looking for that right to privacy cite in the constitution so that I can better understand this.

Jul 27, 2004, 01:48 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	I'm all for it, although, this society is so backward that I can't see too many people wearing it. I think I'd rather see her wear that t-shirt than one that says, "JESUS SAVES" or "VOTE FOR BUSH" or, "I WANT TO KEEP MY BABY ALTHOUGH MY BABY'S DADDY IS IN IRAQ AND WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GET MARRIED."

Jul 27, 2004, 03:50 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
prettyredhead Igneous Magma Posts: 336	It isnt like it is meant as birth control, but it is available, should b/c fail. Please stop..... Kids like sex. And will always have it. Safe, unsafe, whatever. That 400 dollar dress you bought for prom usually ends up in a heap on the motel room floor. Or hiked up in the backseat. Good girls have sex too. You'll sing a different tune when its your girl that comes home at 14 pregnant. Believe me. Or would you rather start over and raise another kid>? Let her ruin her life? I doubt you would...

Jul 27, 2004, 04:19 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	On another forum, someone posted this: At least this way you can more easily spot the girls that are loose I thought that was the worst reply to this t-shirt so far. How anyone could find wearing a T-Shirt about murder to be a good thing is beyond me. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

Jul 27, 2004, 04:25 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	Yes, but people will put up all kinds of signs telling me to vote for murderers like George Bush while they're telling women that they value women's lives so much they want to make all their decisions for them.

Jul 27, 2004, 04:35 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
Liberty Landing Igneous Magma Posts: 299	Supporting abortion rights is one thing. Openly advertising the fact that you had one is another. This shirt is just plain bad taste. Abortions are something you're supposed to be ashamed of having, not something you're supposed to openly advertise. The "loose girls" comment is 100% accurate. That's the only way people who wear this ridiculous POS should be viewed. *<span style='color:red'>Draft South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford for President in 2008 -- and get a REAL Republican in the White House!</span>*

Jul 27, 2004, 04:56 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	Ashamed? Why are you ashamed of sex?

Jul 27, 2004, 05:22 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	Abortion is taking responsibility for one's actions.

Jul 27, 2004, 05:23 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
Liberty Landing Igneous Magma Posts: 299	Abortion is a convenient escape. Carrying a child to term and raising it into a loving, well-adjusted adult is taking responsibility for one's actions -- i.e., the action of having sex. I don't exactly see how just wiping out a problem counts as "taking responsibility." *<span style='color:red'>Draft South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford for President in 2008 -- and get a REAL Republican in the White House!</span>*

Jul 27, 2004, 05:30 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Mr.Vicchio Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031	Abortion is escaping responsibility by murder. So Gorgo, if your 15 year old daughter, came to you and said "Dad, I got pregnant, but I had an abortion!" You would give her a raise and tell her what a good girl shes been? Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?

Jul 27, 2004, 05:47 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
manik Molten Ash Location: vancouver, b.c. Posts: 31	Obviously not, but a lot of people don't have the option of rasing a child in well-adjusted, loving household...