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Old Apr 7, 2008, 10:43 pm   #101 (permalink) (top)
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As much as what you're saying sounds like a conspiracy theory, I agree.
At least it's not u and I using propaganda and tax dollars to defend yet another conspiracy.
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Old Apr 11, 2008, 04:21 pm   #102 (permalink) (top)
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be legalized?
yes or no and why?
I think the ban on pot has wasted a lot of time, money and jail/prison space. It has cost our society billions, but hasn't proven to help anything.

Laws should serve a purpose, and the laws against marijuana have long proven they don't serve any purpose at all.
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Old Apr 12, 2008, 02:26 pm   #103 (permalink) (top)
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I think the ban on pot has wasted a lot
of time, money and jail/prison space.
It has cost our society billions, but hasn't proven to
help anything.
Well, it may help some people:
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Just think about it a little. It may not help anything for average people, but laws and prison space needn't help anything. All that's supposed to matter is that they exist and are used by somebody. Some think the government has the power to enforce anything, and they're eager to prove it. Then we can say we have the most powerful, "safest" country in the world and pat ourselves on the back.

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Old Apr 17, 2008, 07:09 am   #104 (permalink) (top)
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Marijuana should be legal, not only for recreation but for medical, and production. Hemp can be used to make a bio-degradable plastic 10 times stronger than steel, it can be used to make clothing, rope and just about anything. If we used hemp then we would never have to cut down another tree, we would never have to use oil, it would basically save the world.
It's being used medically.
And there are NO proven permanent mental or physical effects of marijuana.


Let everyone tell the truth, no matter what the law is.
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Old Apr 17, 2008, 07:17 am   #105 (permalink) (top)
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no, its a dirty habit, that can be addictive the more you smoke it.
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Old Apr 17, 2008, 08:29 am   #106 (permalink) (top)
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no, its a dirty habit, that can be addictive the
more you smoke it.
Well, a lot of things can be "addictive," "dirty habits." As I type this I'm looking at my cup of cappucino.
There are innumerable other examples.

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Old Apr 17, 2008, 10:00 am   #107 (permalink) (top)
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no, its a dirty habit, that can be addictive the more you smoke it.
It's not an addictive thing, it's habit forming but not addicting. You know nothing about marijuana if you're going to post something like that. Look into things before you judge them.


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Old Apr 18, 2008, 03:41 am   #108 (permalink) (top)
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Should hemp (marijuana) production be legalized?

Should the usage of hemp be legalized? Like for clothes, plastic's, fuel, books, etc... Here are a few facts about hemp--
It can be used to make a bio-degradable plastic 10 times stronger than steel.
1 acre of hemp is equal to 4.1 acres of tree's, so we would never have to cut a tree down again.

What about medical marijuana.

Or recreation.

Well I just want to know other peoples views on the subject.


Let everyone tell the truth, no matter what the law is.

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Old Apr 18, 2008, 01:48 pm   #109 (permalink) (top)
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All illegal drugs should be either decriminalized or legalized for the mere fact the abuse of them is a medical problem and not a criminal one. The money that is now used to catch and prosecute drug offenders could be better used to fund health programs to treat drug abusers rather than punishing them by locking them up.


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Old Apr 18, 2008, 02:35 pm   #110 (permalink) (top)
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All illegal drugs should be either decriminalized or legalized for
the mere fact the abuse of them is a medical
problem and not a criminal one.
The money that is now used to catch and prosecute
drug offenders could be better used to fund health programs
to treat drug abusers rather than punishing them by locking
them up.
You're right.

Furthermore, it's not that prisons are overcrowded with nonviolent marjuana
offenders. How many is not so much the issue. It's that they shouldn't be there to begin with.

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Old Apr 18, 2008, 02:42 pm   #111 (permalink) (top)
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Well, a lot of things can be "addictive," "dirty habits." As I type this I'm looking at my cup of cappucino.
There are innumerable other examples.
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True, but smoking pot a lot leads you to be in an unaware state of mind, you become focused on smoking it daily, as something you cant go without.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 02:45 pm   #112 (permalink) (top)
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It's not an addictive thing, it's habit forming but not addicting. You know nothing about marijuana if you're going to post something like that. Look into things before you judge them.
See how defensive the average pot smoker becomes when you attack their beloved pot, they are in love with it.
Its possibly habit forming Jake because it is addictive.
I used to smoke too, but I realised it becomes the central social activity that pot smokers base their lives around.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 03:26 pm   #113 (permalink) (top)
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True, but smoking pot a lot leads you to be
in an unaware state of mind, you become focused on
smoking it daily, as something you cant go without.
That's funny. I happen to know many who smoke pot, and I wouldn't say any of them are perpetually unaware. All of them can go without it, they just prefer not to for very long. But don't let this scare you into thinking they're hardcore addicts.

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Old Apr 18, 2008, 03:32 pm   #114 (permalink) (top)
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See how defensive the average pot smoker becomes when you
attack their beloved pot, they are in love with it.
Its possibly habit forming Jake because it is addictive.
Maybe they're defensive because the drug war is a fundamental attack on freedom. It's not worlds apart from jailing people for what they think.

Bad things happen all the time regarding substances. You might lose a loved one because of alcohol poisoning, but you should still be able to have drinking parties.

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Old Apr 18, 2008, 03:37 pm   #115 (permalink) (top)
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That's funny. I happen to know many who smoke pot, and I wouldn't say any of them are perpetually unaware. All of them can go without it, they just prefer not to for very long. But don't let this scare you into thinking they're hardcore addicts.
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lol exactly
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 03:40 pm   #116 (permalink) (top)
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=grandpa;497540]Maybe they're defensive because the drug war is a fundamental attack on freedom. It's not worlds apart from jailing people for what they think.
how is saying you disagree with legalising marijuana, a fundamental attack on freedoms?

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Bad things happen all the time regarding substances. You might lose a loved one because of alcohol poisoning, but you should still be able to have drinking parties.
I would have no problem with alcohol banned either, I myself haven't drunk any for a year.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 08:18 pm   #117 (permalink) (top)
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lol exactly
The fact that someone prefers not to go without something for very long doesn't mean they're addicted. Most people prefer not to go without a shower for very long, but they're not addicted to soap and water.

A medical addiction also requires physiological dependence; something which has never been observed with weed. The reason people believe that things like weed are addictive is because they get a false association with drugs like heroin, coke, and amphetamines. They’re the only three mainstream illegal drugs which are genuinely addictive.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 11:19 pm   #118 (permalink) (top)
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True, but smoking pot a lot leads you to be in an unaware state of mind, you become focused on smoking it daily, as something you cant go without.
Hahahha... I guess this is how you experienced it... you must have a highly addictive personality. As for being unaware? Marijuana stimulates creative thought... anyone who smokes it and has a brain will tell you that.

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I would have no problem with alcohol banned either, I myself haven't drunk any for a year.
So you would consider yourself an authoritarian right? Don't mince words, you wish to have the state practice a full control of peoples lives in many aspects for their "own good. "


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Old Apr 19, 2008, 12:10 am   #119 (permalink) (top)
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The Bacon Guy;497602]The fact that someone prefers not to go without something for very long doesn't mean they're addicted. Most people prefer not to go without a shower for very long, but they're not addicted to soap and water. //
maybe because soap and water aren't addictive substances?

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A medical addiction also requires physiological dependence; something which has never been observed with weed.
I think its psychological.
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Old Apr 19, 2008, 12:13 am   #120 (permalink) (top)
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=another day;497649]Hahahha... I guess this is how you experienced it... you must have a highly addictive personality. As for being unaware? Marijuana stimulates creative thought... anyone who smokes it and has a brain will tell you that.
Creative thoughts and a lot of nonsense mostly.



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So you would consider yourself an authoritarian right?
Only on my own behaviour.


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Don't mince words, you wish to have the state practice a full control of peoples lives in many aspects for their "own good. "
No, I would like to see people get high on life, not try to find happiness and answers in drugs and alcohol.
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