Please help to invent the word

[La Mangra]

Please help to invent the word

The word would mean "donation as reward for something"

It is something new of the open source kind

You put it into common domain and you ask from all to pay for it if they want it and as they want

That means you don't say it is free, you ask for something in return

It might be used in many other cases

For example, I've put my inventions and ideas into common domain and I ask for something in return but only if you want to pay for it and as much as you want to pay

It might be used with books, art and so on

I also would like to know what do you think about it

[Technosoul]

Forecredit

ForeSourcing.

[La Mangra]

Quote by: Technosoul Forecredit ForeSourcing.

It would be good could it be easily translated into other languages

Also, maybe because I'm not native English speaker, it looks to me that these words don't express it

I tried to call it social fee but I don't like it

It does says that you expect for money from all, but it doesn't says that it is volunteering to pay

Also, the word fee doesn't suits it, it is rather some kind of payment

It could be named social payment, but that too wouldn't say that it is volunteering to pay and it would be kind of claim it

What does the "fore" part means ?

[Compugasm]

What you are describing, is a "donation". Do you want to make it easy for people to give you money? If yes, then stick with words people already know the meaning of. Don't invent a new word, because that is just going to confuse people. If they're confused, then they will definately NOT donate anything. Your intention, and purpose has to be clear and simple.

[La Mangra]

Quote by: Compugasm What you are describing, is a "donation". Do you want to make it easy for people to give you money? If yes, then stick with words people already know the meaning of. Don't invent a new word, because that is just going to confuse people. If they're confused, then they will definately NOT donate anything. Your intention, and purpose has to be clear and simple.

The new word is needed because it is not a donation

For now I called it free payment

It is something what would rather be called payment, only that you don't have to pay and you pay as much as you want

[La Mangra]

As for now I called it "fay"

It's "f" from "free" and "ay" from "pay"

[La Mangra]

And now likely the final version, I think I'll call it "shay"

It's done from words "share" and "pay"

It means "donation as reward for something"

[Technosoul]

You might need a term instead of a word.

For example: We have an idea that is called " the paying foreward plan". Which means that you will donate money to help someone out on the condition that when they get back on their feet, they will help out someone else, so the same money continues to help a lot of people down-the-line as long as that "chain momentum" continues via free will.

We also have what we call the "lay away plan". Meaning you make a downpayment and they will not sell the item until the full amount due is paid off, normally on a monthy bases.

Your sistuation is kind of like that of a preacher or church. Helping someone for free but expecting some donation from them in the future. The Salvation Army works on that principle in part, they help a wino and then when the wino gets back to making money, the x-wino donates to that cause, so others can benifit from that service. (no name for that, that I know of).

It is about reclaiming energy spent to re-charge the battery. (hmm? a "re-charge account" ). The battery turns on the car and the car then generates energy to recharge the battery.

Freepay would be a good word.

Normally when making a new word you combine two meanings from other words.

Freepay would mean "free now - pay later".

But you are also offering an investment, you have the idea and they invest time to create the product, and then you both share in the profits of the product. Here in the USA we have companies that do that for a fee, they help people get the copyright and they help you to find someone who will produce the product invented.

You might explore sites like this one.

1000inventions.com

[Jack]

What is donationware? Donationware means that whilst programs are free to download and use, users are welcome to make a gift to the developer to help towards development costs. I can't guarantee it, but donating may help your karma too! Donations are used towards hosting costs for this website, licences I require to buy, and also encourage further development! Thanks very much for your kind donations to date - if any Blocksoft applications become shareware in future, all of those who have donated to date will of course receive a free copy. How much should I donate? There is no obligation to donate at all, and equally, there is no suggested amount. Bear in mind that donations through PayPal are in US Dollars, even if your PayPal account is another currency.

Blocksoft - Shareware and Donationware for Mac and PC

[La Mangra]

Quote by: Technosoul You might need a term instead of a word. For example: We have an idea that is called " the paying foreward plan". Which means that you will donate money to help someone out on the condition that when they get back on their feet, they will help out someone else, so the same money continues to help a lot of people down-the-line as long as that "chain momentum" continues via free will. We also have what we call the "lay away plan". Meaning you make a downpayment and they will not sell the item until the full amount due is paid off, normally on a monthy bases. Your sistuation is kind of like that of a preacher or church. Helping someone for free but expecting some donation from them in the future. The Salvation Army works on that principle in part, they help a wino and then when the wino gets back to making money, the x-wino donates to that cause, so others can benifit from that service. (no name for that, that I know of). It is about reclaiming energy spent to re-charge the battery. (hmm? a "re-charge account" ). The battery turns on the car and the car then generates energy to recharge the battery. Freepay would be a good word. Normally when making a new word you combine two meanings from other words. Freepay would mean "free now - pay later". But you are also offering an investment, you have the idea and they invest time to create the product, and then you both share in the profits of the product. Here in the USA we have companies that do that for a fee, they help people get the copyright and they help you to find someone who will produce the product invented. You might explore sites like this one. 1000inventions.com

The inventions and ideas which I put into common domain are of benefit to all and it is of benefit to all that I don't charge for them

1. You can take any invention or idea and implement it and you don't have to pay anything for this

2. Anything charged for the inventions and ideas and I could charge a lot in the end would be passed on the end buyers

But I want and I need money too, so I ask for some money from anyone who would like to give them to me

I don't say it is free and I don't charge for it

It is to pay to me if you want to pay and as much as you want to pay

It is to thank me

[La Mangra]

Quote by: Isherwood Blocksoft - Shareware and Donationware for Mac and PC

But I don't want to ask for donations

I gave something and I want something what I need in return

I don't want to charge for it and I want to make it available to all

As in case of the Anonymous Internet voting, I don't want to past the licensing costs upon all

As in case of software I would like to make it available to all yet to get money for it

The idea is not to set the price and to allow everyone not to pay at all or to pay as much as they want to pay while it is easy for them

I also want thank you from all and I want it as small money gifts

[Domino]

The word would mean "donation as reward for something"

"Tip"

[La Mangra]

Correction

There is a need in a word which would mean "monetary thank you"

[Chancellor]

Quote by: La Mangra Please help to invent the word The word would mean "donation as reward for something"

Bribe.

It is something new of the open source kind

Explain what you mean by "open source."

You put it into common domain and you ask from all to pay for it if they want it and as they want

Commodity.

That means you don't say it is free, you ask for something in return

the marketplace, barter

It might be used in many other cases For example, I've put my inventions and ideas into common domain and I ask for something in return but only if you want to pay for it and as much as you want to pay

And as long as people aren't required to pay for it, they're going to take advantage of your foolishness and not pay anything (you really should have filed for that patent).

It might be used with books, art and so on

Don't count on it! There are reasons why we have copyright laws.

I also would like to know what do you think about it

So, basically what you're asking is that we do away with protecting intellectual property?

[Domino]

There is a need in a word which would mean "monetary thank you"

Still a tip :)

[Compugasm]

A "fay"? I've said all that needs to be said. This made up word is a huge mistake. When you have to explain it, people will say "Oh, it's a donation", and your reponse is "No, it is a fay". Whatever man, it's your business.

[La Mangra]

Quote by: Compugasm A "fay"? I've said all that needs to be said. This made up word is a huge mistake. When you have to explain it, people will say "Oh, it's a donation", and your reponse is "No, it is a fay". Whatever man, it's your business.

I gave new definitions of what I want to express

You can find them here named as X, Y and Z : La Mangra

[La Mangra]

It goes as follows


Not existing word - Y

To pay because of what it is and as thank you

You pay what is easy for you or nothing at all

If you are low on money, you get things for free

You don't have to pay anything


Not existing word - Yware

You get it for free or you can use it as you want

You don't have to pay anything

If you want so, you pay because of what it is and as thank you

You pay what is easy for you or nothing at all

If you are low on money, you get things for free

If you have expenses, you can set them as the price with an option to pay you more

You can set a fixed price which is optional to pay

As paid distribution it may be distributed as Y only while buyers decide how much goes to the author and how much goes to the distributor

In the isolated places it may come to anyone and anything and they can do with it anything

[La Mangra]

Dear moderator, please delete this thread because I finally defined what should be named and started a new thread