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Fangrim · Mar 21, 2008, 05:42 pm

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Ok... Protect that recognized property against what?

That's what you're not getting. A "right" ALWAYS has contained in it's complete definition the inclusion of someone or something against whom the right is enforced.

As long as we are not living in our own universe, there are ALWAYS two parties to a right - the party granted the right, and the party whose behavior is restricted.

Tell me a "right" that does not involve preventing someone else from doing something.

I have to disagree. Rights do not inherently require a restricted party.

Given the existence of natural rights (which I dispute, but you would apparently like them, so we'll go with that), were I the last person on Earth, I would still have the right to life. That no other parties exist to be restricted by that right is irrelevant.

It is when rights are applied as social constructs for ensuring certain liberties to individuals and maintaining certain restrictions on others that they obviously would entail a restricted party.

It's unfortunate that the distinction between a right and a freedom or liberty is so very worn down.

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Who said an individual? It can be an individual, corporation, government, etc.

Excuse me, I meant "party."

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You make my argument for me. The right is to keep and bear arms - it is enforceable against the federal government in this case. As I said, ALWAYS attached to a right is the party that is restricted by it.

ALWAYS

In this case?
Ha!

What then, that in one single society there might be several different rights to keep and bear arms, but that these several different otherwise identical rights might apply to different people?
Do I then have some six billion rights to life, considering that there at least six billion other parties on this planet?

Perhaps when you answer that question, we'll get somewhere. I have something in mind.

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