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nerdvincent · Mar 1, 2008, 06:38 pm

Why do you smoke? Isn't it a bit stupid? Spending [lots of] money to die slowly?
It is a major health hazard (both for thou and the people around thou), so why do they allow tobacco and not salvia divinorum?

Come on, tell me!

Kite · Mar 1, 2008, 06:40 pm

Stress reduction, helps with weight loss, looks 'cool'.

nerdvincent · Mar 1, 2008, 06:47 pm

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Stress reduction, helps with weight loss, looks 'cool'.

Freud would like to study your case

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"It looks so cool to stab our health and show we don't care. It sounds...rebell-ish. I watch the Power-Rangers in blue panties every morning but I smoke!"

Technosoul · Mar 1, 2008, 06:48 pm

First of all we have no proof based on real science that smoking is a major health hazard.

If you have been brainwashed into thinking so then you would not smoke.

( 1 ) - Smoking is a long standing ritual for shaman religions.

( 2 ) - Smoking can reduce our reaction to stress, and stress is the number one health hazard in Ameirca.

( 3 ) - Smoking and the smell of tobacco on our body helps to keep away blood sucking insects that carry dreaded illnesses when they bite you.

( 4 ) - Smoking keeps away people who are control freaks while normal people will still hang out with you. So you can drive off people with evil spirits and they will not bug you all the time. Smoking works like bug spray to get rid of the "goodie two shoes" kinds of people that would otherwise suck you dry emotionally.

Smoking can be used for bonding with your peers.

nerdvincent · Mar 1, 2008, 06:55 pm

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First of all we have no proof based on real science that smoking is a major health hazard.

You smoked something stronger than tobacco while posting, did you?

madprophet · Mar 1, 2008, 07:00 pm

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You smoked something stronger than tobacco while posting, did you?

I've smoked about everything that can be smoked, and I don't think any of them could do that to a person. You'd have to mainline pure stupid to say something like that.

Compugasm · Mar 1, 2008, 07:13 pm

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Why do you smoke?

Because after sex, it just doesn't seem right to say "Hey, you want some ginkgo biloba?"

Kite · Mar 1, 2008, 07:15 pm

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First of all we have no proof based on real science that smoking is a major health hazard.

If you have been brainwashed into thinking so then you would not smoke.

( 1 ) - Smoking is a long standing ritual for shaman religions.

( 2 ) - Smoking can reduce our reaction to stress, and stress is the number one health hazard in Ameirca.

( 3 ) - Smoking and the smell of tobacco on our body helps to keep away blood sucking insects that carry dreaded illnesses when they bite you.

( 4 ) - Smoking keeps away people who are control freaks while normal people will still hang out with you. So you can drive off people with evil spirits and they will not bug you all the time. Smoking works like bug spray to get rid of the "goodie two shoes" kinds of people that would otherwise suck you dry emotionally.

Smoking can be used for bonding with your peers.

So if I smoked 2 packs a day for, say, 40 years, there would be no adverse effects on my health?

nerdvincent · Mar 1, 2008, 07:17 pm

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Because after sex, it just doesn't seem right to say "Hey, you want some ginkgo biloba?"

Damn

. I alway thought that green tea and ginko biloba were sensual after sex!

nerdvincent · Mar 1, 2008, 07:20 pm

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So if I smoked 2 packs a day for, say, 40 years, there would be no adverse effects on my health?

Of course not! Cancer cannot grow into a nicotine-based form of life.

Kite · Mar 1, 2008, 07:24 pm

The cancer doesn't come from the nicotine, it comes from the tar, and the ammonia, or any of the other crap thats in cigarette smoke.

madprophet · Mar 1, 2008, 07:26 pm

Mmmmm-mmm, tar!

Compugasm · Mar 1, 2008, 07:36 pm

Mmm, hydrogen cyanide.

Really, the hidden agenda of smokers is to get everyone else addicted to second hand smoke.

nerdvincent · Mar 1, 2008, 07:38 pm

Yummy carbon monoxyde!

Kite · Mar 1, 2008, 07:45 pm

Yum, oxycodone to kill the pain of the cancer that has spread to your spinal cord.

gela · Mar 1, 2008, 11:26 pm

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First of all we have no proof based on real science that smoking is a major health hazard.

There is mountains of evidence linking smoking to lung cancer and heart problems.

You would have to be blind not to see the scietific evidence that smoking is a major health hazard

TRIGGER · Mar 1, 2008, 11:42 pm

If you don't have a butt after sex how are you going to get her to leave???

Technosoul · Mar 2, 2008, 12:46 am

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You smoked something stronger than tobacco while posting, did you?

Dang it, if you want to debate this then do so, don't just make those silly remarks that mean nothing.

The OP asked a question and we assume you were sincer about debating our answers, but instead you come on with that crap such as "been smoking pot eh", or " Some head shrink should study you because you are nuts". Why are making silly remarks instead of responding to realism with realism?

Get with the program man!

Tycoon · Mar 2, 2008, 01:08 am

Techno... everybody knows that smoking is a major health risk. It's been medically proven in five-hundred ways. Where do you come up with an idea that it isn't?

Technosoul · Mar 2, 2008, 01:17 am

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So if I smoked 2 packs a day for, say, 40 years, there would be no adverse effects on my health?

Some effects. all things you do have effects. With cigarettes you might notice a slight shortness of breath unless you keep up with daily walks and other physical activity. You might get brown stanes on your fingers or teeth. Some toothpaste companies have products for that. But so far I know of no products designed to finger stains.

The worse thing is the addiction and so if you attempt to stop for economical reasons or because some new girl friend wants you to, then you would suffer some "withdraw" problems during the process of quiting.

I personally started to smoke in 1956, and have been a steady smoker until now, with an average of two packs a day for most of that time. As of this moment smoking has not limited me from doing things and I am healthy enough not to need to use any prescription drugs to maintain.

I have known 90 year old people who smoked for years and can get up and dance a jig around the teenagers.

If people develope some kinds of illnesses from another cause then cigarettes might not be good for them. They are only for healthy people and not people who are physically weak already, or who become that way.

I would not recomend people start smoking because of the addiction side-effect and how tax collectors and cigarette companies can take advantage of that with price hikes. When I started they were 25 cents per pack. And because this is no longer a smoking-friendly culture to live in.

However your question is somewhat pointless. Because you know that I cannot provide a single webpage link to a scientific study that prooves that cigaretter smoking does not cause a health risk. I doubt if anyone has ever published such a thing as that and if they did it was a long time ago and you would be hard pressed to find it in todays society of control freaks.

I cannot prove with real science that it does not cause bad health and you cannot prove it does with "real" science. The real answer is "no one knows for sure".

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I can't remember why I started.	1	2.17%
It helps me relax.	8	17.39%
I don't want to smoke, I just can't stop!	4	8.70%
I'm too stupid to realise that I'm dying.	3	6.52%
It's a daily pleasure like cookies or (ahem).	6	13.04%
I don't smoke! Mind your own business!	30	65.22%
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Mar 1, 2008, 06:38 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
nerdvincent NerdyHippieThing 3.1 Location: Who cares? Posts: 718	What's the point of smoking? Why do you smoke? Isn't it a bit stupid? Spending [lots of] money to die slowly? It is a major health hazard (both for thou and the people around thou), so why do they allow tobacco and not salvia divinorum? Come on, tell me! I think, I'm free.

Mar 1, 2008, 06:40 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Kite Evil Overlord Location: A Geofront, somewhere in Antarctica Posts: 938	Stress reduction, helps with weight loss, looks 'cool'. I know your type. You think, "I'll just get me a costume, rip off the neighborhood kids." Next thing you know, you've got a jet shaped like a skull with lasers on the front! -The Monarch

Mar 1, 2008, 07:24 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Kite Evil Overlord Location: A Geofront, somewhere in Antarctica Posts: 938	The cancer doesn't come from the nicotine, it comes from the tar, and the ammonia, or any of the other crap thats in cigarette smoke. I know your type. You think, "I'll just get me a costume, rip off the neighborhood kids." Next thing you know, you've got a jet shaped like a skull with lasers on the front! -The Monarch

Mar 1, 2008, 07:26 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
madprophet Dedicated Anarchist Posts: 172	Mmmmm-mmm, tar! "None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." -- Johann Von Goethe

Mar 1, 2008, 06:48 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,057	First of all we have no proof based on real science that smoking is a major health hazard. If you have been brainwashed into thinking so then you would not smoke. ( 1 ) - Smoking is a long standing ritual for shaman religions. ( 2 ) - Smoking can reduce our reaction to stress, and stress is the number one health hazard in Ameirca. ( 3 ) - Smoking and the smell of tobacco on our body helps to keep away blood sucking insects that carry dreaded illnesses when they bite you. ( 4 ) - Smoking keeps away people who are control freaks while normal people will still hang out with you. So you can drive off people with evil spirits and they will not bug you all the time. Smoking works like bug spray to get rid of the "goodie two shoes" kinds of people that would otherwise suck you dry emotionally. Smoking can be used for bonding with your peers.

Mar 1, 2008, 07:36 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,419	Mmm, hydrogen cyanide. Really, the hidden agenda of smokers is to get everyone else addicted to second hand smoke. I'd like to thank Charlie Hodge, bringing me scarves and water.

Mar 1, 2008, 07:38 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
nerdvincent NerdyHippieThing 3.1 Location: Who cares? Posts: 718	Yummy carbon monoxyde! I think, I'm free.

Mar 1, 2008, 07:45 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
Kite Evil Overlord Location: A Geofront, somewhere in Antarctica Posts: 938	Yum, oxycodone to kill the pain of the cancer that has spread to your spinal cord. I know your type. You think, "I'll just get me a costume, rip off the neighborhood kids." Next thing you know, you've got a jet shaped like a skull with lasers on the front! -The Monarch

Mar 1, 2008, 11:42 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
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Mar 2, 2008, 01:08 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
Tycoon Grammar Police Location: California Posts: 1,156	Techno... everybody knows that smoking is a major health risk. It's been medically proven in five-hundred ways. Where do you come up with an idea that it isn't?