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Old Feb 21, 2008, 02:25 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Yet at the same time Chancellor promotes parents taught education, and reduction of government.

If all people are reduced into more self sufficient states and communities how do you intend to promote the ideal of a united american society?

Unless your goal is to try and force everyone to become independent libertarians then in that case you've lost your case. This nation is never going to move backwards at this point. Our only choices are which more socialistic future to choose.


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Old Feb 21, 2008, 03:22 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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Yet at the same time Chancellor promotes parents taught education, and reduction of government.
I said that the educating of children is the parents' responsibility. If they choose to hire someone else to teach their children, I don't have a problem with that. I just don't want the government involved. And, yes, I do promote reduction of government.

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If all people are reduced into more self sufficient states and communities how do you intend to promote the ideal of a united american society?
Being a united American society doesn't require an all-powerful federal government.

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Unless your goal is to try and force everyone to become independent libertarians then in that case you've lost your case. This nation is never going to move backwards at this point. Our only choices are which more socialistic future to choose.
Independent, yes. Libertarian, not necessarily. If someone has this perverse desire to be a Democrat or a Republican, that's his right. And this socialism you desire is not a move forward.


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Old Feb 21, 2008, 07:09 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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I think cultural diversity needs to progress into its own culture. I love spanglish, the sort of latino-american influence where i live is great, and helps me to define my multi-cultural society in an inclusive way. However, multi-culturalism shouldn't replace culture, its should reform itself into the new culture, the amalgamation of all cultures culture.
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Old Feb 21, 2008, 07:30 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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Independent, yes. Libertarian, not necessarily. If someone has this perverse desire to be a Democrat or a Republican, that's his right. And this socialism you desire is not a move forward.
I'll assume you mean things like Universal Healthcare.

Why is it not a move forward. That seems to be your personal opinion.

In a nation where people elect leaders to use a represented vote to determine policy what the leaders vote is what is. If Hillary is elected and the majority of citizens and their leaders vote for a national healthcare system then thats how society progresses.


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Old Feb 21, 2008, 11:38 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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How about unity? Isn't that a better way to unite a nation to common goals and practices? Unity of speech, law and goernment.
Why should a country be united? I really don't see unity as all that important.

If everyones the same, then everyone has the same faults. If an entire country has the same ignorances then it would just lead to disaster.
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Old Feb 22, 2008, 06:12 am   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Diversity is fine, but tolerance is not always a good thing. Historically, Europeans exterminated six plus something millions of Jews, which contributed heavily in culture and science. Then, they became tolerant and got 30 plus something millions of Muslims, which brought poverty, fanaticism and terrorism. All in the name of tolerance.


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Old Feb 22, 2008, 08:23 am   #27 (permalink) (top)
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Diversity is fine, but tolerance is not always a good thing. Historically, Europeans exterminated six plus something millions of Jews, which contributed heavily in culture and science. Then, they became tolerant and got 30 plus something millions of Muslims, which brought poverty, fanaticism and terrorism. All in the name of tolerance.
Im not exactly sure what your trying to say. Are you saying the extermination of the jews was a good thing.

When you refer to toleration of muslims.. are you refering to tolerating them in your country, or on your planet?

Are you suggesting that we shouldn't tolerate them, we should whipe out the muslims; similar to the jews?

When and how did muslims bring poverty?
Christians or Americans are in no position to judge other people as fanatic. I mean, you have westboro church. Sure, they only make up a tiney percentage of you- what percentage of muslims are fanatical?


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Old Feb 22, 2008, 10:08 am   #28 (permalink) (top)
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Im not exactly sure what your trying to say.
Are you saying the extermination of the jews was a
good thing.
I'm not sure what he's saying, either. Much of the modern Middle East was a creation of Europe, made through warfare, political alliances and economic control. So to make it sound like only Muslims are capable of damaging Europe is a bit absurd. Many Americans say similar things about Mexicans, though, so I unfortunately shouldn't be too surprised.

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Old Feb 22, 2008, 03:26 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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I'll assume you mean things like Universal Healthcare.

Why is it not a move forward. That seems to be your personal opinion.

In a nation where people elect leaders to use a represented vote to determine policy what the leaders vote is what is. If Hillary is elected and the majority of citizens and their leaders vote for a national healthcare system then thats how society progresses.
Well, not only universal healthcare. I mean this whole tendency to want a huge federal bureaucracy having significant control over the lives of the citizenry and acting as a nanny taking care of the citizens from cradle to grave.


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Old Feb 22, 2008, 04:31 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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What would be nice, is to get the same coverage, for the same price as a large corporation gets with their "bulk prices". If we're going to be forced to buy healthcare, then they shouldn't charge us the highest rates to do it.


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Old Feb 25, 2008, 09:25 am   #31 (permalink) (top)
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What would be nice, is to get the same coverage,
for the same price as a large corporation gets with
their "bulk prices".
If we're going to be forced to buy healthcare, then
they shouldn't charge us the highest rates to do it.
It'd be nice if these private healthcare providerss wouldn't place high price tags on themselves...but they're in the business of making money.

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