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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,741 | Encrypted laptop poses legal dilemma From Yahoo News: Quote:
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![]() Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,780 | If it was a matter of national security, I'd be willing to bet that Microsoft or PGP have the skelton key. But why would this dude let a border guard rummage around through his computer? What an idiot. What if he worked for a company that issued him a computer. He'd be in hot water with his employer too. Not just over pictures, but willingly breaking "trade secrets", or non-disclosure agreements or something like that. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh! |
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,741 | Here's another tidbit I just ran across: Quote:
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375 | I think this is very interesting. Unfortunately, details as to whether it was a personal machine or corporate machine are not readily available, but still. The password is, almost literally, intellectual property. If the laptop was actually his, it's not like they are having him surrender access to something he doesn't own. It's his laptop. IT'S A BOY!! |
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![]() Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,780 | There is a lot of details missing. Like, did everyone just stand in line while he opened the computer case, maybe fumbled for a mouse, booted Windows..? That's at least 3-5minutes. Then, did anyone ask the guard where the pictures were? On the desktop, MyDocuments folder, or did he Explore the file system? That's another minute or two, even if he beelined right to the My Documents folder. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh! |
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,741 | Quote:
![]() I recently flew to San Jose and back. They had areas behind the screener's stations where the took the people who were being inspected more rigorously. I would suspect that's what they did here, too...pulled him aside, out of the way, for further inspection. BTW-I was warned before leaving that they might make me turn on my laptop and Nokia mini-PC, but they didn't. I was traveling with quite a few pieces of electronics and they passed them all right through. Must be my trustworthy continence. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) | |
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![]() Juris Doctor Location: Brockport, NY Posts: 2,166 | Because if you want to enter the country, you have no choice. "But it wasn't until he met his beautiful wife that he learned using logic and reason isn't enough. You have to be a dick to everyone who doesn't think like you." - South Park on Richard Dawkins |
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![]() Molten Ash Posts: 140 | I find this to be a very interesting and unique situation; one of many we are sure to face as technology improves. On one hand, I completely agree that the password itself is intellectual property and that by being forced to divulge it, the subject is losing his right against self incrimination. On the other hand, the government has the authority to seize his property containing the evidence. In this case, they seized his laptop and, essentially, all files therein. The case gets even muddier when you compare it to similar, existing cases. Take the following scenario, for example: Someone claims to have seen you commit murder. You have since removed the victim's body and destroyed all evidence to a secure location only known to you. The police apprehend you based on a witness' testimony. The DA knows that the case is iffy without a corpse; but, they have a reliable eyewitness who saw you do the deed. Would a court order compelling you to name the location of the corpse be appropriate? By revealing where you stashed the body, you're incriminating yourself. In this case, though, I'm inclined to side with the defendant. The police took the legal action available to them -- seizing the laptop and all files therein. It is now their job and their burden to prove guilt by producing the evidence. If they are unable to decrypt the files they need to make their case, then the defendant should not be required to do their job for them. It's kind of akin to seizing a 1 terabyte hard drive containing 5 million JPEGs and requiring the suspect to direct the investigators to the exact photo needed to convict him. The only difference is, in the hypothetical, the police can find that one photo eventually. PGP is, for all intents and purposes, going to be impossible for the cops to break. Still, though, I don't think the suspect should be compelled to aid them in their prosecution case, or to make any statement (including a password) that could lead to his self-incrimination. |
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