Humane Society: What’s your decision about spaying or neutering pets?

[freedom13]

The following could be some of our favorite pets: dogs, cats, birds, horses, cows, guinea pigs, chinchillas, goats and others.

Spaying and Neutering Are Good for the Community • Communities spend millions of dollars to control unwanted animals. • Irresponsible breeding contributes to the problem of dog bites and attacks. • Animal shelters are overburdened with surplus animals. • Stray pets and homeless animals get into trash containers, defecate in public areas or on private lawns, and frighten or anger people who have no understanding of their misery or needs. • Some stray animals also scare away or kill birds and wildlife. Why You Should Spay or Neuter Your Pet | The Humane Society of the United States

Do you agree with the Humane Society that cats and dogs, maybe other pets should be spay or neuter?

[Jack]

I do, and most of my pets have either been neutered when I got them or I had them neutered. The only exceptions were animals I kept for the purpose of breeding (rats, goats) or were not the kind of animal you neuter (snakes, lizards).

[Nemiroff]

I understand the arguments for spaying, but I still don't feel right doing that to my dog.

It may be good for dogs as a whole, but I see it as a crime, or at least inflicting suffering on the animal as an individual

[Jack]

at least inflicting suffering on the animal as an individual

In many cases the opposite is true. The procedure is done under anesthesia, so the animal doesn't "suffer" from neutering. Meanwhile, diseases that are common in whole dogs and cats are avoided, fighting over mates and spraying are reduced or eliminated and the animal's temperament is improved.
I think the benefits outweigh any disadvantages.
If you don't support neutering, what do you consider the advantages to the animal in remaining whole?

[Nemiroff]

For the same reason I wouldn't want my balls chopped off. Love for ones reproductive organ isn't something we are taught by society (although it does reinforce the idea) it is one of the most basic instincts and I believe that the loss will be felt.

[sevendogs]

Spaying and neutering is a cruel and unusual punishment. If you do not want puppies or kittens, do not breed or cull them quickly, when they are just born. If animals have rights, let them breed and enjoy life in full. Hith mortality of young is a normal and ordinary thing in wild nature, the best and most natural population control.

[Cephus]

Quote by: Isherwood I do, and most of my pets have either been neutered when I got them or I had them neutered. The only exceptions were animals I kept for the purpose of breeding (rats, goats) or were not the kind of animal you neuter (snakes, lizards).

Same here. The only animals I have that are not fixed are reptiles (and the mice they eat) and my daughter's guinea pig. Otherwise, all the dogs and cats are fixed. The last unwanted animal birth I had here was a cat I took in that was pregnant when she got here. She gave birth, we gave away her kittens and she got fixed.

[Cephus]

Quote by: Nemiroff For the same reason I wouldn't want my balls chopped off. Love for ones reproductive organ isn't something we are taught by society (although it does reinforce the idea) it is one of the most basic instincts and I believe that the loss will be felt.

You're just anthropomorphizing the animal. The only reason they feel the need to breed is because of the hormones released by their sex organs. Remove the hormones, the need to breed goes away. Animals lead better, longer, happier and healthier lives once fixed, they don't feel the need to fight over females, get out to sow their wild oats, etc.

If you can't handle proper animal ownership, do us all a favor and don't own any.

[Suburbanite]

Quote by: freedom13 Do you agree with the Humane Society that cats and dogs, maybe other pets should be spay or neuter?

Yes! I'm really sick of mushy dog lovers with their dogs humping everything, oh look how cute, he's shitting on your head. people, STOP REPLACING LOVE WITH ANIMALS! Oh kissy kissy my fluffy wuffy. These people need to shut up!
I love my dog more than anyone, even humans. Psycho Alert!
My Dog only like this one brand of food. No, your dog is FAT, and isn't hungry! Stop buying it Costco Chicken.

[Jack]

I'm currently providing snoozing space in my cottage to a female cat who was a feral born under the house next door to my previous lodgings. She had 2 litters every year, most of the kittens dying from one disease or another or malnutrition. She finally looked so thin and weak I snatched her one day and had her neutered. No more dead kittens, and better yet, she calmed down enough for me to make a house cat of her.

[kubedawg]

Quote by: Suburbanite Yes! I'm really sick of mushy dog lovers with their dogs humping everything, oh look how cute, he's shitting on your head. people, STOP REPLACING LOVE WITH ANIMALS! Oh kissy kissy my fluffy wuffy. These people need to shut the fuck up! I love my dog more than anyone, even humans. Psycho Alert! My Dog only like this one brand of food. No, your dog is FAT, and isn't hungry! Stop buying it Costco Chicken.

lol this sounds like a previous personal problem. did you have a pet that passed away from eating too much chicken?

My dogs are family. If someone were to kill my dogs, I would likely kill them, the same as if someone killed one of my family members.

You say these things now, but wait till you see pictures of my innocent loving puppy doggies. ^_^

Since I don't have pics to show now, here:

[sevendogs]

I never had a neutered or anyway desexed animals. I breed dogs occasionally, when I know that every puppy will be placed in a right home. We had cats for some time, whcih bred by themselves, but I spared only some litters for a replacement and to supply neighbors. Usually I put all new born kitens in a bucket with water. No problem. Chickes we breed serve as a source of quality poultry meat and eggs.

[Jack]

How is drowning kittens a more acceptable alternative to you than neutering? At least neutering is not a life ending procedure.

[freedom13]

Quote by: Suburbanite Yes! I'm really sick of mushy dog lovers with their dogs humping everything, oh look how cute, he's shitting on your head. people, STOP REPLACING LOVE WITH ANIMALS! Oh kissy kissy my fluffy wuffy. These people need to shut up! I love my dog more than anyone, even humans. Psycho Alert! My Dog only like this one brand of food. No, your dog is FAT, and isn't hungry! Stop buying it Costco Chicken.

I don’t have a negative attitude toward animals as long as they remain animals and humans remain humans. I think “spay or neuter” is not fair to animals, but it is done because the owners believe that their pets may become a threat to society. Also, the Humane Society indicated that “spay or neuter” is necessary, because the population of these animals can get out of control.

I agree that you may have a point about some people, having the tendency to love their pets more than anyone, even humans. But not all human beings feel or think that way.

Maybe it’s just an Evolution Theory!

[gela]

Basicly, If you dont desex your pets, then they will escape and make mut puppies.
No one will want mut puppies, so they will be sent to the pound.
Still, no one will adopt them, so these gorgous little puppies have to be put down.
Kittens are the same, except they are more likely to go feral and kill native wildlife.
Its all well and good for you to say that you don't want your male dog desexed. You won't have to deal with the puppies. But everyone has a responsibility to not let unwanted puppies be born.

[Nemiroff]

You're just anthropomorphizing the animal. The only reason they feel the need to breed is because of the hormones released by their sex organs. Remove the hormones, the need to breed goes away. Animals lead better, longer, happier and healthier lives once fixed, they don't feel the need to fight over females, get out to sow their wild oats, etc. If you can't handle proper animal ownership, do us all a favor and don't own any.

And why do people feel the need to have sex, the very same hormones, and we would waste alot less energy on that and rid ourselves of the risk of testicular cancer if we all chopped our balls off. perhaps i am anthropomorphizing my pets, but you know what, my dog isn't that stupid, they are pretty damn advanced animals. They just dont understand long term objects and dont consider using tools (that was started by monkeys), and only humans have deductive reasoning. As far as Emotions and the feeling of loss, i believe at least every mammal is capable of feeling. And they may not be able to talk, but how can you be sure they are better that way? PETA can't talk to animals either, and of course their gonna get over it, they dont have much choice.

It will loose the need to hump, but do you really know for sure that it won't feel that something is missing, something that is a part of it, something this animals has been having and feeling its entire life, is just not there, and it won't even notice? thats just ridiculous.

I know its bad for dogs as a whole especially for the puppies, but that doesn't mean its not bad for the animal to get neutered. one of them is obviously the lesser evil, i dont know which one, but i know for sure both are in some degree bad.

[Cephus]

Quote by: Nemiroff I know its bad for dogs as a whole especially for the puppies, but that doesn't mean its not bad for the animal to get neutered. one of them is obviously the lesser evil, i dont know which one, but i know for sure both are in some degree bad.

No, you don't *KNOW* anything, you're just making baseless claims based on emotion. You have no objective evidence whatsoever to support your claims.

Come on back when you can do more than just spout emotional drivel.

[gela]

It will loose the need to hump, but do you really know for sure that it won't feel that something is missing, something that is a part of it, something this animals has been having and feeling its entire life, is just not there, and it won't even notice? thats just ridiculous. I know its bad for dogs as a whole especially for the puppies, but that doesn't mean its not bad for the animal to get neutered. one of them is obviously the lesser evil, i dont know which one, but i know for sure both are in some degree bad.

Mabe if their neutered before they reach sexual maturity then they wouldn't feel the loss.
You can't miss what you never had.

[Kizzume]

Hysterectomies and vasectomies.

[Baarst]

Quote by: Isherwood In many cases the opposite is true. The procedure is done under anesthesia, so the animal doesn't "suffer" from neutering. Meanwhile, diseases that are common in whole dogs and cats are avoided, fighting over mates and spraying are reduced or eliminated and the animal's temperament is improved. I think the benefits outweigh any disadvantages. If you don't support neutering, what do you consider the advantages to the animal in remaining whole?

Why don't you get yourself neutered then? It would be a painless operation, you wouldn't have to worry about testicular cancer and other diseases that come hand in hand with being intact, you wouldn't have to worry about forking out your hard earned money on females and you may become a more lovable person.