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Old Dec 11, 2007, 02:38 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Keep praying aloud Helio, and in the other hand try taking a dump, and see which one fills up first.
My hand will fill up faster than a room holding a city meeting of libertarians.


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Old Dec 11, 2007, 02:39 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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It will fill up faster than a room holding a city meeting of libertarians.
Oh look, you're wrong again.

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Old Dec 11, 2007, 02:42 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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OMG 8000 participants in NH is a great reflection of the #'s needed to win an election!

So what, the libertarian party going to get 1% popular vote in 08? MY GOSH the mainstream parties are going to embrace limited government ideals for sure!

Thanks god we have the corrupt to attempt to shoot them and bring them back in line.


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Old Dec 11, 2007, 02:42 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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Enough of your derailing the topic, I won't be participating in your derailment any longer.


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Old Dec 16, 2007, 01:20 am   #25 (permalink) (top)
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So what do you think? Should there be changes in how we use our Drive-Thrus?
I don't understand why there needs to be regulation. The rest of your post, pretty much covers all the available solutions. I mean, just how is this going to be regulated? With police? Police with stop watches at the entrance counting cars? It doesn't make sense.


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Old Dec 16, 2007, 03:06 am   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Bone heads? I take 10 seconds to ensure my order is correct before moving from the window. What point is there to the convenience of a drive-through, if I have to stop and get out if my order is not right?

What is the big deal about that small part of the process? It's as important as ordering, paying, and being handed the food, yet no one suggests I skip any of those steps so that they may proceed in line faster.


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Old Dec 16, 2007, 03:57 am   #27 (permalink) (top)
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The solution is chicks in mini-skirts and rollerskates that serve orders in the parking lot.


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Old Dec 16, 2007, 07:50 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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The solution is chicks in mini-skirts and rollerskates that serve orders in the parking lot.
Now you've got it. I absolutely despise drive thrus and won't use them. Most of the time they get your order wrong and it's cold by the time you get around to eating it.

Drive ins, on the other hand, I have no problem with.

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Old Dec 16, 2007, 07:58 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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Word to the drive-ins.


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Old Dec 17, 2007, 03:02 am   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Now that everyone is raising their prices (including tim horton's) I say I should be able to sit my ass in my car in the parking lot and have an employee run the damn coffee out to ME!!!


Hahha, just joking.


Honestly though, I knew this would come up sooner than later. The time horton's here is horrible for obstructing traffic.. it actually causes delays on a lot of route's to downtown. (Maybe if the quit spiking their "coffee" with crack-cocaine people wouldn't be lining up like sheep to get their fix.)


I say it should be up to the owner of the drive-thru to have a property in an appropriate location with the appropriate size for a drive-thru that won't block traffic in the event they get high customer traffic (which they should anticipate anyways)


For the idling bit... YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO! I can buy 10 SUV's if I want and let them all idle in my backyard... its my right and you try to take it you'll have to.. uhh... go through ME! Yarrrr



EDIT: Realized I used a joke that was just used by someone else. Didn't know there was more than one page to the thread... oh well... give it up for being unoriginal!


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Old Dec 17, 2007, 10:29 am   #31 (permalink) (top)
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Honestly though, I knew this would come up sooner than later. The time horton's here is horrible for obstructing traffic.. it actually causes delays on a lot of route's to downtown. (Maybe if the quit spiking their "coffee" with crack-cocaine people wouldn't be lining up like sheep to get their fix.)
Tim Horton's, not Time

Oh and they were spiking their coffee with Nicotine, not Crack or Cocaine.
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 11:36 am   #32 (permalink) (top)
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If there were drive-ins, you could smoke in your car instead of in the building....

oh wait, Canada is outlawing that too..... I forgot they don't trust their citizens to think for themselves up north.


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Old Dec 18, 2007, 03:45 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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And next election that majority will decide the next Queen for this democracy.
Go ask Alice:


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One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all
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And if you go chasing rabbits
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Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Recall Alice
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So much for the Queen of Democracy. Only when logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead will Hillary be appointed the Queen of America.

Her polls are all falling and she doesn't know whether to shit or go blind so she just cackles with that phony laugh. Clintons leads the anti - candidate polls:

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton tops the list of "anti" candidates in a poll that asks Americans who they would most want to keep out of the White House, The Washington Times reported on Tuesday.

Forty-percent of Americans said they would vote against Clinton, a New York Democrat, according to a Fox 5-The Washington Times-Rasmussen Reports poll.

Clinton scored more than twice the total of the No. 2 "anti" pick, Republican Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor.

"Hillary Clinton is better known than any (other) presidential candidate on either side. She has a lot of people who love her and a lot of people who hate her" said pollster Scott Rasmussen.

Sixty-four percent of Republicans and more than half of adult men under 40 said they would use their vote against Clinton, the poll found.

Giuliani drew the strongest opposition from Democrats, with 30 percent saying they would vote to bar him from the presidency, according to the poll.

Among the other candidates, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama also scored double-digit opposition with 11 percent saying they would consider using their vote against him, The Washington Times said.

Republican Mitt Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, rounded out the leading "anti" candidates with seven percent opposition, the survey found.

The poll of 1,000 adults, taken December 11 to 12, has a margin of error of five percentage points
Those who think Hillary is electable merely need to keep feeding their head.


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Old Dec 18, 2007, 03:49 pm   #34 (permalink) (top)
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Now you've got it. I absolutely despise drive thrus and won't use them.
I don't eat any of the establishments that offer drive through services.

However, I do remember down in Tenn or Georgia, or somewhere down south, they had drive through liquor stores. Now there is something I would use.


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Old Dec 18, 2007, 04:12 pm   #35 (permalink) (top)
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Idle and startup are the least efficient moments in the use of an internal combustion engine (gasoline that is, diesel is more efficient at idle)


Starting up the car uses 10 seconds worth of idle wasted fuel. Idle itself is wasteful because it is wasting fuel with no gain other than powering the comfort controls inside the car.

That has nothing whatsoever to do with the question I posed, or pollution in general, but thanks.
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Old Dec 18, 2007, 11:29 pm   #36 (permalink) (top)
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That has nothing whatsoever to do with the question I posed, or pollution in general, but thanks.
You asked about pollution.

So I answered. Idle ICE cars = pollution.

My hometown is only 60,000 people but we have over 100 drive thru's. If every driver visiting those locations either parked and walked in, or drove a car capable of no emissions at idle then there would be obvious reduction of auto emissions.

This is where regulation comes in. Because as you yourself showed most people don't view idle as a major source of pollution. If they are not aware where is their motivation to stand up and demand idle friendly cars.


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Old Dec 19, 2007, 12:15 am   #37 (permalink) (top)
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You asked about pollution.

No, I stated that according to governmnet sources, internal comsution engins emit the bulk of their emmissions at start up, and I asked why turning the car off for a minute would equate to "less pollution" if the government information is correct.


My point being that, like most of the positions I've seen you advocate, the result is presumed, and not known.


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This is where regulation comes in. Because as you yourself showed most people don't view idle as a major source of pollution. If they are not aware where is their motivation to stand up and demand idle friendly cars.

What did show?


I asked why idling cars are seen as "the" polluters, and not cars that start, and stop.
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