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Old Nov 30, 2007, 07:43 pm   #41 (permalink) (top)
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What about the Warrior Princess? Lots of straight men are attracted to her, right?
She needs breast enhancements. She's really hot, but not curvey enough.

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Old Nov 30, 2007, 07:46 pm   #42 (permalink) (top)
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Actually straight men have been attracted to Amazons for longer than you think. Wasn't Wonder Woman quite popular with the guys?
Lynda Carter? Now, she was curvey. Yeah. I could go for that.

I'm not afraid of strong women. Just ask my wife. She'll tell you what I think.

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Old Nov 30, 2007, 07:57 pm   #43 (permalink) (top)
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That's all well and fine and works well in an academic discussion, but not in the real world. It's called nature. Nature dictates what men and women are attracted to and the vast majorty of them are attracted to the masculine and the feminine. This is mostly a problem of laziness on women's part. They demand men be masculine, which they are attracted to, but too lazy and worthless to work at the corresponding counterpart. Nature, it seems, doesn't give a *^&% whether you like 'traditional gender roles.' Aint' that a bitch? SORRY.

Now, can we get back to the topic, please? How women are so nauseatingly butch in Ameica today.
OK. Let's go to the real world, which is someplace with which you only have a limited connection as far as I can see.

I think that most strong men want a woman who is physically attractive. Looks do count for a lot for guys. Unless she is overwhelmingly beautiful, some makeup helps a lot. And, some artificial enhancements don't hurt if nature didn't treat her well (see above comment about Xena), but that may or may not make or break the deal.

Most reasonably confident, intelligent, and might I say, masculine men, want a woman who can think for herself, but her thoughts should be in general agreement with the man's. That doesn't mean submissive or accepting of every whim of her "man", but generally of the same "set of mind". And, she has to be able to BE feminine, but doesn't necessarily mean that she can't also be strong.

All in all, a real man will be looking for a real woman. One who is intelligent, confident in herself, reasonably attractive and who can respect that man for who he is. Not one who is artifical, superficial and submissive. Nor is he looking for a woman who will direct his life with her overwhelming power. What a real man would look for is a partner to spend his life with.

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Old Nov 30, 2007, 11:08 pm   #44 (permalink) (top)
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Today's American women are so incredibly butch and masculine and repulsive, that a man would have to be gay to be attracted to them!
This is main point right here, huh?

Just by looking at the link you provided with "butch" posters, I can tell you now that over half of them are potentially attractive purely by gonad instinct. Also, I would find Xena attractive as she is.

I can be attracted to women who look more "butch" or "Tom-boy"
I am not Homosexual
Therefore your argument is kaput.

'Today's American women are so incredibly butch' is not true.

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The problem with the things you've said is that they are far too generalized, and furthermore subjective, concepts that you are bringing up. I can offer a flip-side far too easily.
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All in all, a real man will be looking for a real woman.
Sometimes real men look for real men. Masculine does not shove being homosexual out the window. If I do not look for a real women by your definition am I all of a sudden not a real man? It's besides the point but I'm not sure I catch what you mean.
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think that most strong men want a woman who is physically attractive.
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Unless she is overwhelmingly beautiful, some makeup helps a lot. And, some artificial enhancements don't hurt if nature didn't treat her well (see above comment about Xena), but that may or may not make or break the deal.
Make up and enchancements as well as clothes and styling (of anything) changes absolutely nothing about a person, whether it be genetics or who that brain of theirs and life experiences makes them. If a person wishes to apply such tactics then it also matters not to me. Either way, some men are looking beyond.
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Not necessarily so.
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(oops, was that sexist?)
No, but it was purely your opinion. My opinion would differ. I don't think I have to add any more.

The fad of what is attractive to the pop culture changes quite frequently. Back in the days of castles, horse carriages and the like, women with small breasts were in among the nobility. So much so that they usually couldn't breast feed when it came time for it and so others did it for them. If the next fad happens to be this thing you call "butch" then so be it. It matters not to me and it changes nothing when it comes to right and wrong actions/thoughts/impulses for men or women besides adding to the pool of subjectivity.


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Old Nov 30, 2007, 11:10 pm   #45 (permalink) (top)
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I think nine steps is just a gay man angry that even when he came out not even other men were attracted to him.


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Old Dec 1, 2007, 09:54 am   #46 (permalink) (top)
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... just took a look at the mirror and loved what I saw.
Wow, that is really, really creepy. So now we can at least be certain that you have the personality of the woman in the photo. (We all pretend you're physically attractive though, like you do in your fantasy world- wink-wink)
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Old Dec 1, 2007, 10:05 am   #47 (permalink) (top)
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[quote=Nigh Eve;458273 I can be attracted to women who look more "butch" or "Tom-boy"
I am not Homosexual
Therefore your argument is kaput.[/QUOTE]

Haha! You're obviously suffering from a gender identity disorder. I can give you referrals for psychiatrict counseling. Help yourself and get educated and brought to speed. Because of the general dumbing down of today's education, you're unable to even think your way out of paper bag.

DSM-IV
The current edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders has five criteria that must be met before a diagnosis of gender identity disorder (302.85) can be given:[2]

There must be evidence of a strong and persistent cross-gender identification.
This cross-gender identification must not merely be a desire for any perceived cultural advantages of being the other sex.
There must also be evidence of persistent discomfort about one's assigned sex or a sense of inappropriateness in the gender role of that sex.
The individual must not have a concurrent physical intersex condition (e.g., androgen insensitivity syndrome or congenital adrenal hyperplasia).
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You're off topic in your own thread, and this thread has become non-debatable flame bait.
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