Hypocrisy of Liberal women: what is your aim, or, are you just selfish and clueless?

[Jack]

If you want an example of how deep and thoughtful some men are, Google BDBP and go to the first hit. (Fair warning: It's an adult site)

[nine steps]

Quote by: ruksak And the men aren't? So please, get out your sharpest knife and cut the bullsh*t.

Pay attention and learn, grasshopper; even the stupiest men still have what is called 'a corresponding intelligence to the world in which they live.' A lot of men simply choose to restrict their conversation because it becomes too tedious to talk about what is really on their minds. Women on the other hand, cannot shut up about is on their minds- which is all garbage.

[nine steps]

Quote by: Winter wind Last American girl I saw was a genius in AP politics and knew how to summarize an argument and analyze a political field better then most politicians I've met.

The only thing women are genius at is fraud, and that is what your little friend is.

[nine steps]

Quote by: Isherwood If you want an example of how deep and thoughtful some men are, Google BDBP and go to the first hit. (Fair warning: It's an adult site)

Who couldn't see that coming? (Especially from Mr. Banal P.C.) Wow, so men like sex? What a shock!

[Winter wind]

I'm posting my reply to this on the superficial woman topic.

This is going to be fun.

[ruksak]

Quote by: nine steps Have you actually ever met an American female? You sound like someone who just dropped out of the sky 5 minutes ago.

At Volconvo, we refer to this sort of thing as an "insulting personal comment". Debate what people say, not their intelligence.

I really don't appreciate this sort of thing and I'm tired of getting myself into trouble by allowing it to make me angry.

[ruksak]

Quote by: nine steps Pay attention and learn, grasshopper; even the stupiest men still have what is called 'a corresponding intelligence to the world in which they live.

Like what is Peyton Manning's QB rating.

Or how big Pamela Anderson's tities are.

[Suburbanite]

Quote by: ruksak First off, hello and welcome to Volconvo. I agree with much of what you said. There is an inherent process of liberals excusing Islam for its mistreatment of women. Often they cite the non-violent aspects of Islamic female oppression as a cultural connotation. As if tradition excuses the oppression. The mere fact that women have to hide themselves shamefully under clothing that bears an eerie resemblance to a bee keepers outfit, is reason enough to stop defending Islam. Far-Left Liberalism knows no bounds when it comes to protecting the guilty, the evil from justice or blame.

You know, I have to disagree. I haven't once heard a leftist say anything like that in person, and I live in LA. We have the stupidest leftists on the planet all around me. I feel like Fox News paid Colmes to make a sound bite with his mom or something and they just replay it at low volume.

[Suburbanite]

Quote by: nine steps The only thing women are genius at is fraud, and that is what your little friend is.

they can be

[ruksak]

Quote by: Suburbanite I feel like Fox News paid Colmes to make a sound bite with his mom or something and they just replay it at low volume.

I swear once I actually saw small filament wires attached to Allan Colmes wrists right before they cut to a commercial.

He's a f*cking puppet.

You know, I have to disagree. I haven't once heard a leftist say anything like that in person, and I live in LA. We have the stupidest leftists on the planet all around me.

Thats strange. I hear them all the time talking about rehabilitating people like John Coeuy. Who abducted, raped and buried alive a 9 year old girl.

There is nothing wrong with seeing the good in people. But the bad cannot be wholly ignored.

[Suburbanite]

I've never even heard that guys name, maybe florida has its own special kind of retards.

[nine steps]

Quote by: ruksak At Volconvo, we refer to this sort of thing as an "insulting personal comment". Debate what people say, not their intelligence. I really don't appreciate this sort of thing and I'm tired of getting myself into trouble by allowing it to make me angry.

I'm not insulting your intelligence, in fact, just the opposite.. I know that you know the truth. What I am insulting is your political correctness.

[phoenix_fire]

Wow. I think that nine steps would probably prefer living in an Islamic theocracy with all of its atrocities against women.

Hmm...the OP very much reminds me of my thread on Moral Relativism.

To address an earlier argument, it is true that some, and probably many, Muslim women will tell you that they prefer the conditions in which they live. But you have to understand that they have been conditioned that way. Most people don't know enough about other cultures to understand what a different kind of cultural conditioning can do to you.

According to Islam, women are believed to be born worthless. And if you hear it enough times from people you love and respect, you'll probably start to believe it. They try very hard not to make themselves sexually attractive to men because if you get raped or for any reason have sex with someone that's not your husband, it's over. If you survive, you'll probably be cast out of your family and be forced to beg since women usually can't have jobs. (stop me if I'm wrong) At least, that's the worst case scenario.

At any rate, acceptance of most of this stuff is deeply embedded. It would probably be a mistake to just thrust a new culture on them, but that does not change the fact that it is unjust. That, I think, is where the crux of the situation lies.

As far as American women go, you have to look at a little more closely. True feminists (and there aren't very many any more) are very much incensed about this situation. But "feminist" may not necessarily mean "liberal" and certainly doesn't mean "Democrat" which is the more important distinction. Not all feminists are liberals, not all liberals are Democrats, and not all feminists are Democrats. Democrats have their own agendas. Just like most of them like to curry the favor of the Greens without actually doing anything about the environment (check out the energy usage stats on Al Gore's houses sometime), they also like to curry the favor of feminists without actually serving the cause of women's rights at all. Their main objective has always been to take down the Republicans. The Republicans don't like Islamic theocratic culture for various reasons. So the Democrats find themselves defending it.

Or on the other hand, you have the atheists. Though most of them will never admit it, even to themselves perhaps, many of them have a fixation on hating Christianity. They take every opportunity to take Christianity down. And sometimes this puts them on the side of defending Islam. (Although, if they lived in an Islamic theocracy, their focus would almost certainly change). Having never experienced how unpleasant such a government can be toward non-believers, they are able to relativistically assume that the occasional annoyance by a well-meaning evangelist here is far more dangerous than the atrocities of Islamic theocracy there. Some even mistakenly believe that Muslim extremists would grant them some form of clemency for being theologically "neutral". They wait to throw down flowers before their tanks. So for the sake of their continuing vendetta with Christianity, they will smooth over the worse aspects of radical Islamic culture.

[ruksak]

Quote by: nine steps I'm not insulting your intelligence, in fact, just the opposite.. I know that you know the truth. What I am insulting is your political correctness.

Ask Suburbanite how "politically correct" I am. Go on. Do it. I dare you.

[Winter wind]

Nine steps, this is very little reason for us to be politically correct on this site, cause at the end of the day, I don't know anyone here.

And thank God Phoenix Fire caught wind of this, I was feeling kinda stupid arguing the woman's side as I'm a guy. Not because I was embarrassed, but because I don't have first hand experience.