Woman Are Far More Superficial

[nine steps]

Women say that men are superficial, but seeing how 90% of all women marry 'up' (as in only seriously considering men who earn more than they do for marriage) then the only logical conclusion we can make from this is that a woman's love can be measured only a calculator. How does it get any colder, soul-dead and superficial than that?


Women will say that it isn't true, but there isn't a heterosexual male that doesn't have to deal with this everyday of his entire life- the whole thing is a sick joke. Never listen to what women say, only what they do.

Women then usually give the eye-rolling response, "so.. men only want an attractive woman." True, but women want attractive men as well. I don't see or hear any women anywhere saying, "we're looking for some mediocre looking guys." At least physical attractiveness has something to do with your person.

Woman are by far... far, far, far far more superficial and marry for nothing but money. Hey, what could go wrong?!?

[another day]

Men and women in general are equally superficial. But I definitly take exception with the well spread notion that men are superficial pigs and women are deeper. It's just not true.

You've obviously got a chip on your shoulder. Sure it's in a woman's instincts to marry a well off man that can provide for her and her children. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. And they don't all do that.

[phoenix_fire]

The calculator did not factor in (apparently) that men often make more than women in general.

[Jack]

Is there any support for these generalizations?

[HelioPrime]

Quote by: Isherwood Is there any support for these generalizations?

How many men do you know that will cry when you give them generic boots because their not real UGGs.

How many malls have just a Express for men, as opposed to malls with just Express women.

How many malls have an H&M with no mens section as opposed to malls with just them mens.

How many major brand appeal clothing stores will have larger women's sections.

Answer is there is clearly more money in selling appeal to the female sex.

[The Bacon Guy]

In my experience it's true that women in general are more superficial than men. I find it much harder to find a woman with whom I can have a meaningful conversation than I do a man. I'm selective about whom I talk to, so this isn't necessarily a representative sample of humanity, but certainly from my experience, women are generally far more shallow.

Obviously there are exceptions, and I would never judge a woman before getting to know her.

[phoenix_fire]

Quote by: HelioPrime How many men do you know that will cry when you give them generic boots because their not real UGGs. How many malls have just a Express for men, as opposed to malls with just Express women. How many malls have an H&M with no mens section as opposed to malls with just them mens. How many major brand appeal clothing stores will have larger women's sections. Answer is there is clearly more money in selling appeal to the female sex.

Or you could say that men create a demand for women to look beautiful by their superficial obsession with looks and women only respond to that. Sex sells. Perhaps the lack of such places for men indicates that women value other things about men than just appearance.

[phoenix_fire]

Quote by: The Bacon Guy In my experience it's true that women in general are more superficial than men. I find it much harder to find a woman with whom I can have a meaningful conversation than I do a man. I'm selective about whom I talk to, so this isn't necessarily a representative sample of humanity, but certainly from my experience, women are generally far more shallow. Obviously there are exceptions, and I would never judge a woman before getting to know her.

I know some women can be pretty superficial. But I've known plenty of men to be really superficial too. I was talking to a friend who was down because his girlfriend dumped him. Since we were very platonic friends, he felt like he could confide in me and maybe get some advice from the opposite sex without any strings attached. So anyway, he gets around to talking about his rating system (1 to 10) for women's appearance and how he wouldn't date under a 7. So I asked him how I rated and he said "Oh, no. I won't tell you that. I'll never make that mistake again".

[HelioPrime]

Quote by: phoenix_fire Or you could say that men create a demand for women to look beautiful by their superficial obsession with looks and women only respond to that. Sex sells. Perhaps the lack of such places for men indicates that women value other things about men than just appearance.

Nobody is forcing the female to dress or buy cloths. Don't women like to call think themselves in charge of the good?

If women are more superficial its because they allow themselves to buy into the idea they have to buy their looks.

[The Bacon Guy]

Quote by: Phoenix I know some women can be pretty superficial. But I've known plenty of men to be really superficial too.

True, and I have to say the vast majority of people I encounter are pretty superficial. I just think the proportions tend to favour women.

Your friend sounds like quite the charmer.

[phoenix_fire]

Quote by: A&F guy Nobody is forcing the female to dress or buy cloths. Don't women like to call think themselves in charge of the good? If women are more superficial its because they allow themselves to buy into the idea they have to buy their looks.

Oh really? Society penalizes women who aren't attractive to men. Big time. I personally don't care that much about following trends or attracting superficial men with one thing on their minds, but on bad days, I can definitely feel the pull. Society tells women that they need men. It has for millennia in very overt ways and in modern times that influence is still very vital. It's simple Pavlovian psychology. Dressing a certain way has emotional rewards, and not doing so has social consequences.

[HelioPrime]

Well its funny how people will taunt and mock the american life saying we need to break the mold and revolt.

I say the same to the female population. If you don't fight to make change then don't complain. I applaud those who choose to do their own thing, but I don't think men are to blame anymore.

[another day]

To say that either sex is to blame for all the different types of percieved gender inequalities, or percieved gender unfairness is idiotic.

It's the way nature works. Everything is the way it currently is because that's how things work in nature. We just dress it up in fancy decoration and call it civil society.

Society tells women that they need men.

They do need men. Men need women, women need men. Otherwise we would cease to exist. Men beat their chest, women have fancy tail feathers. It's all very simple. Individuals can transcend these traits at times, but on a general, basic level we all follow these laws of animal nature and it's nothing to be scorned or shunned lest you wish to disturb the balancing act of nature.

[nine steps]

Quote by: phoenix_fire Or you could say that men create a demand for women to look beautiful by their superficial obsession with looks and women only respond to that. Sex sells. Perhaps the lack of such places for men indicates that women value other things about men than just appearance.

Yes, a man's salary.

[nine steps]

Quote by: phoenix_fire I know some women can be pretty superficial. But I've known plenty of men to be really superficial too. I was talking to a friend who was down because his girlfriend dumped him. Since we were very platonic friends, he felt like he could confide in me and maybe get some advice from the opposite sex without any strings attached. So anyway, he gets around to talking about his rating system (1 to 10) for women's appearance and how he wouldn't date under a 7. So I asked him how I rated and he said "Oh, no. I won't tell you that. I'll never make that mistake again".

I'm going to enlighten you and bring you up to speed. It is all actually very simple- I think even you will be able to understand. You see, men only consider or discuss women's appearence because women today have nothing else to offer a man. What could I, as a man, possibly learn from a woman? How to be a self-centered, unaccountable bitch? This is why men lose all interest immediately after sex.

Women on the other hand, are only interested in a man's salary because women are parasitical by nature, spiritually dead from birth, and masters of fraud, deception, illusion, and living the lies they consider lives in their distorted fantasy-like, amoral perception of the world and their completely seperate culture based on a perverse divorce from reality and passive aggression.

That is the harsh reality.

[Jack]

No, this is overstated, misogynistic nonsense. This reads like the frustrated whining of either a young, inexperienced man or someone who perceives themselves as burned in a relationship. If you refuse to learn anything from a woman, learn from a man; very few women are as you describe. I can't imagine how anyone with such rabid distaste for women will fare in a society about evenly split between the sexes, most of whom are decent, well-meaning people.

[nine steps]

Quote by: Isherwood No, this is overstated, misogynistic nonsense. This reads like the frustrated whining of either a young, inexperienced man or someone who perceives themselves as burned in a relationship. If you refuse to learn anything from a woman, learn from a man; very few women are as you describe. I can't imagine how anyone with such rabid distaste for women will fare in a society about evenly split between the sexes, most of whom are decent, well-meaning people.

The way this reads is just someone trying to sound politically correct so he will be well liked & someone who has been brain-washed well. You need to begin to dismantle the conditioning in your brain and begin to see the reality of the times we live in. It is a combination of the horrors of women and the legal system.

I'm going to survive- you on the other hand are going to get burned with this naive attitude. A good place to start is to begin educating yourself on the domestic violence laws in your state, then you can move on to learn about the horrors of the child support system, then divorce law. This is far beyond a simple character issue.

[grandpa]

Quote by: nine steps The way this reads is just someone trying to sound politically correct so he will be well liked & someone who has been brain-washed well. You need to begin to dismantle the conditioning in your brain and begin to see the reality of the times we live in.

How is it incorrect in any way to say women and men are both often superficial?
Even I tend to like women better who I'm more attracted to, and I try hard to avoid being superficial.

Did a woman kicked you in the nuts right before you started this thread?

Grandpa h.

[Jack]

Poor reading comprehension can be overcome through education and even, in extreme cases, asking questions about another's opinions instead of making unsound assumptions.

I have no interest in being politically correct. Even a casual reading of my posts here should make that clear. However, I've had many experiences that have taught me that gross over-generalizations are usually inaccurate and frequently sparked by limited or a series of bad experiences for the person making such claims. There is very little that can accurately be said about "all women", "all men", "all Blacks/Whites/Chinese", etc. in regards to their personalities or behaviors. When someone makes a sweeping generalization, even a single exception can dismantle those statements.

I'm going to survive- you on the other hand are going to get burned with this naive attitude.

I've already lived longer than you, and while I've had both good and bad experiences, I'm surviving just fine. Perhaps that's because I'm willing to judge individuals on their own merits and don't presume (falsely) that all (insert noun here) are the same.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Isherwood Poor reading comprehension can be overcome through education and even, in extreme cases, asking questions about another's opinions instead of making unsound assumptions. I have no interest in being politically correct.

Also, these are more than assumptions he's made, perhaps even more than invective. It sounds more like a call to action.

Grandpa h.