Woman Are Far More Superficial

[Zero Fries]

[quote]Paleeese. In regards to women's earnings compared to men's statistically, that's just a small difference- what- 76 cents for every dollar? Women aren't looking for a man making 24 cents more an hour, they're looking for a man that makes [i]a lot[i] more and I mean.. a LOT more than they do. You know that.

You have it backwards, being more emotional makes you more shallow because you're basing important decisions based on fleeting feelings you are feeling at the moment.[quote]

I believe you're exaggerating here. If most of the economy is middle class then its somewhat impossible for 90% of women to marry men much richer than they are.

Somewhat - women base their emotions on someone on things other than just looks and money; they want a guy who makes them "happy". This however leads to guys being rather insinsere most of them time to lead on women.

Also, its usually men who want emotionless sex.

[nine steps]

Quote by: The Bacon Guy Either you give up on the whole of humanity, or you judge each individual on their merits.

There are personality differences AND gender differences.

[nine steps]

"If you could cease with the unsupported assumptions, support your contentions with more than personal anecdotes and realize that assuming to know what I and everyone else thinks invalidates your generalities, you might actually have a debatable opinion."

Oh, a thousand apologies- I didn't realize.. you see, I live on a place called EARTH.

[The Bacon Guy]

Quote by: NS There are personality differences AND gender differences.

Right, but those differences don't apply universally across a gender, just as personality differences don't apply across the whole of humanity.

If we accept that 96% of people are idiots, but that 95% of men are such, I don't see giving men a fair chance as much different from giving women a fair chance. One woman shouldn't be tarred by the general characteristics of a group she just happens to be a part of.

[HelioPrime]

I'm failing to see any point to this entire thread...

So what is the OP? Women should blame men for everything?

I guess Adam was there forcing Eve to take the apple or no new Audi for her this holiday.

[nine steps]

Quote by: HelioPrime I'm failing to see any point to this entire thread...

"Women are more superficial than men."

[HelioPrime]

Quote by: nine steps "Women are more superficial than men."

I agree. Now the point? And why is that? Blame men?

[nine steps]

Quote by: The Bacon Guy Right, but those differences don't apply universally across a gender.

Sorry, they do.

[The Bacon Guy]

Quote by: Twelve Sorry, they do.

Eh...ok, prove it.

[nine steps]

Quote by: HelioPrime I agree. Now the point? And why is that? Blame men?

Women are more superficial than men is the point. Are you trying to ask, What is the solution? If so, good question. Feel free to give me your solution. (I'm not being sarcastic- seriously, I would like to know if you have an idea).

[grandpa]

Quote by: nine steps Women are more superficial than men is the point.

You have yet to prove they are more superficial than men.
So far all you've done is engage in mawkish woman-bashing.

Grandpa h.

[Epistemologist]

Quote by: nine steps Woman are by far... far, far, far far more superficial and marry for nothing but money. Hey, what could go wrong?!?

Please. Finances are a major factor to consider in marriage, but they are not the only factor. Love, societal approval, and general possibility for a successful future are all factors that must also be considered when making the decision to marry someone or marry at all for that matter.

True, some factors may be considered more than others, and often the differences in how they are considered might be considered wrong. A lady who marries mostly for money and snubs most people who offer her less than a 10K engagement ring would be justifiably seen as a shallow person. But by the same token, a totally lubby-dubby, impractically romantic couple may also be seen as bad in terms of their propensity for success. Even The Taming of the Shrew suggests that impractical romanticism is inappropriate.

It seems that you're claiming that any women who considers her potential husband's earnings is superficial. But as it goes, you are wrong.

As for women who consider finances only considering men who have higher salaries than they have, they are making other considerations as well. These considerations may be cultural, vis-a-vis the norm that a husband usually makes more than the wife, or just a matter of financial security, where the woman will know that she can be safe. But is even thinking about those considerations wrong? Nope.

[phoenix_fire]

Bringing up the societal considerations is a good point. Sometimes in a marriage when the wife makes more money, it can be a source of friction. The husband can feel emasculated: robbed of his position as head of the family.

[Suburbanite]

Quote by: nine steps Women say that men are superficial, but seeing how 90% of all women marry 'up' (as in only seriously considering men who earn more than they do for marriage) then the only logical conclusion we can make from this is that a woman's love can be measured only a calculator. How does it get any colder, soul-dead and superficial than that? Women will say that it isn't true, but there isn't a heterosexual male that doesn't have to deal with this everyday of his entire life- the whole thing is a sick joke. Never listen to what women say, only what they do. Women then usually give the eye-rolling response, "so.. men only want an attractive woman." True, but women want attractive men as well. I don't see or hear any women anywhere saying, "we're looking for some mediocre looking guys." At least physical attractiveness has something to do with your person. Woman are by far... far, far, far far more superficial and marry for nothing but money. Hey, what could go wrong?!?

I agree.

[RVonse]

Quote by: nine steps I'm going to survive- you on the other hand are going to get burned with this naive attitude. A good place to start is to begin educating yourself on the domestic violence laws in your state, then you can move on to learn about the horrors of the child support system, then divorce law. This is far beyond a simple character issue.

Thats very good advice you have offered, to be sure.

But then after you learn about all these legal horrors, what do you advise then? You can't stay away from women forever can you?

Quote by: Friedrich Neitzsche The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything.

Friedrich Nietzsche said this long ago before either of us were born, yet it is true today as it ever has been in the past.

[noisome]

I was bored, taking a break from a game, and I thought I'd peruse your mindless drivel again.

I stopped at this quote:

Quote by: nobody special It's the way nature works. Everything is the way it currently is because that's how things work in nature. We just dress it up in fancy decoration and call it civil society.

Dissect for me American civilization.. each and every social construct... and then give me specific examples in which "nature" is depicted similarly. Show me a clip from The Discovery Channel in which two animals kill each other over material possessions (not food.) Show me a clip from The Discovery Channel in which one animal takes another to court for something. If I haven't made you wish yet, that you hadn't submitted that string of ignorance to this forum, please send me a PM so I can continue.

That is all.

[tivodan1116]

Quote by: nine steps Women say that men are superficial, but seeing how 90% of all women marry 'up' (as in only seriously considering men who earn more than they do for marriage)

Unfounded statistic. Do you have any support for this claim?

then the only logical conclusion we can make from this is that a woman's love can be measured only a calculator. How does it get any colder, soul-dead and superficial than that?

Nonsense. You could make many logical conclusions - one would be that men generally make more than women, and so many women marry up simply because it is difficult to find a man that makes the same or less than them.

Women will say that it isn't true, but there isn't a heterosexual male that doesn't have to deal with this everyday of his entire life- the whole thing is a sick joke. Never listen to what women say, only what they do.

I've never had to deal with it. Strange. I've never made more than $28K in a year and have never had trouble getting women since high school.

What was your proof again?

Woman are by far... far, far, far far more superficial and marry for nothing but money. Hey, what could go wrong?!?

Any proof of this?

It is clear from your posts and your signature that you are obsessed with women as evil beings... have you been hurt in the past? Why don't you go to the miscellaneous forum and lay out your problems for us, we'll listen (read, whatever...)

Quote by: phoenix_fire Oh really? Society penalizes women who aren't attractive to men. Big time.

Yes. That would be called evolution.

Society tells women that they need men.

Because if they want to reproduce, they do.

It's simple Pavlovian psychology. Dressing a certain way has emotional rewards, and not doing so has social consequences.

No, it's evolution - people are attracted to those they think will be the best mate to carry on their genetic information.

Quote by: nine steps It is a combination of the horrors of women and the legal system.

AHHHHHHH there we are... A divorce? Bad one? It's all making sense now.

I'm going to survive- you on the other hand are going to get burned with this naive attitude.

Actually, neither of us are going to survive - ultimately we all wind up dead. The difference is, with the help of my wife, MY genetic material, line, estate, whatever, lives on in my son. If you can't have a relationship with a woman yours does not.

A good place to start is to begin educating yourself on the domestic violence laws in your state, then you can move on to learn about the horrors of the child support system, then divorce law. This is far beyond a simple character issue.

Ummmm yeah, except by and large those laws were written by men, so what does that have to do with women???

Quote by: another day Lol. This guys a one trick pony. Like someone said, I think he got kicked in the balls a few too many times.

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Quote by: nine steps You know and I know and everybody else knows that the salary is the 'deal closer' for women. Period He can be 'fun,' good looking, smart, charming, funny and on and on and on, but at the end of the day, he's not 'marriage material' if he isn't making X a year- just considered a female-style booty call.

My wife, who makes 3x what I do, is laughing her ass off right now from reading this. You're meeting the wrong women, pal.

Ever think maybe it's your attitude that only lets you meet women like that???

[Suburbanite]

I'm sorry, who is your wife laughing at?

[phoenix_fire]

Nah, Tivo. The current ideal of beauty in our culture actually makes women with a low probability of having viable offspring the most desirable. They are malnourished: their bones are brittle from lack of calcium in their diets. Certainly not good for a healthy pregnancy. And their weakened bodies, made all the more unstable by synthetic implants to compensate for the unintended effects of the aforementioned malnutrition are not suitable for carrying children. Implants make nursing impossible. And the temperament of these women indicates that they would be more likely to eat their young than provide even sufficient care.

[nine steps]

Quote by: tivodan1116 My wife, who makes 3x what I do, is laughing her ass off right now from reading this. You're meeting the wrong women, pal. Ever think maybe it's your attitude that only lets you meet women like that???

Sorry to be the one to break the news to you, but you need to be brought up to speed. According to all the stats, countless articles, and women themselves, marriages wherein the wife has a higher salary than the husband generally end in divorce in just under 3 years, so things are looking, well, pretty bleak for you. Women quickly lose all respect for men that earn less than they do. At first they will be accepting, but this changes due to their perception of the world.

What your wife is laughing at is you.