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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:32 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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There is very little that can accurately be said about "all women", "all men", "all Blacks/Whites/Chinese", etc. in regards to their personalities or behaviors. When someone makes a sweeping generalization, even a single exception can dismantle those statements.
If you do not understand the difference between the genders, then you are completely hopeless. Get back on topic. You childishly steered this thread into this conversation about me. This subject is not about me.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:45 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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If you do not understand the difference between the genders,
then you are completely hopeless.
Get back on topic.
You're calling him "hopeless" for disagreeing with you, then telling him to get on-topic?
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:50 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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Women say that men are superficial, but seeing how 90% of all women marry 'up' (as in only seriously considering men who earn more than they do for marriage) then the only logical conclusion we can make from this is that a woman's love can be measured only a calculator. How does it get any colder, soul-dead and superficial than that?


Women will say that it isn't true, but there isn't a heterosexual male that doesn't have to deal with this everyday of his entire life- the whole thing is a sick joke. Never listen to what women say, only what they do.

Women then usually give the eye-rolling response, "so.. men only want an attractive woman." True, but women want attractive men as well. I don't see or hear any women anywhere saying, "we're looking for some mediocre looking guys." At least physical attractiveness has something to do with your person.

Woman are by far... far, far, far far more superficial and marry for nothing but money. Hey, what could go wrong?!?
Human females, as well as other the females of other species, are programmed to be attracted to alpha males, and to be selective, because the survival of their offspring, depends to a large degree on selecting the right mate. This is the mate best capable of promoting the survival of the offspring. Among other things, the male's order plays a part in the attraction. Much of this feeling of attaction is below the consciousness level, however, a human females relationship with her father and social expectations, play a part in selection.

While in many species, males operate to fertilize as many females as possible, and when their hormones are high, doing anything besides pursuing sexual partners can be very difficult, just as it can be very difficult to study or pay attention to a lecture, when hungry. Psychology professors who teach sex is in our brains, are old, and need more stimulus to perform. Our sex drive and related behaviors are hormonal, that is why little pills can increase our sexual activity and have increased the spread of AIDS in the elderly population.

Both behaviors are evolved survival of species, behaviors.

How about that for being romantic, as some males have judged me to be?
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:57 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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A little bit of science would improve this discussion. Try googling for more information.

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Old Nov 20, 2007, 01:02 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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How does it get any colder, soul-dead and superficial than that?
She marries him because his shirtless ad on Match.com exposing his manly chest is irresistible and he has a big dick.


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Old Nov 20, 2007, 01:02 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Human females, as well as other the females of other species, are programmed to be attracted to alpha males, and to be selective, because the survival of their offspring, depends to a large degree on selecting the right mate. This is the mate best capable of promoting the survival of the offspring. Among other things, the male's order plays a part in the attraction. Much of this feeling of attaction is below the consciousness level, however, a human females relationship with her father and social expectations, play a part in selection.
That's sounds nice, but all of that is just an elaborate way of saying, "a woman's love can be measured on a claculator." And since you're in argreement with that's great. My ultimate point is that just don't try to ever tell me that women could ever feel what real love is on a human level if their 'love' can be measured on a calculator. That is not love, that is embezzlement.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 01:42 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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You childishly steered this thread into this conversation about me.
Gee, now why would you have presumed I was talking about you, unless you agree that you're making unfounded, sweeping generalizations? Besides, my disagreement is with your opinion. I don't know you.


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Old Nov 20, 2007, 01:44 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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Lol. This guys a one trick pony. Like someone said, I think he got kicked in the balls a few too many times.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 02:20 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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She marries him because his shirtless ad on Match.com exposing his manly chest is irresistible and he has a big dick.
Even that would be warmer than making a decision based on someone's salary. At least what you described has something to do with his person.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 02:24 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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But you're born with those physical attributes. Salary may tell you he's educated, hard working, dedicated and not lazy. His job may say something about his personality as well. All facets of a person's life can be clues into their character. There isn't one alone, though, that by itself would qualify as a good reason to marry the person. So I agree their salary alone isn't sufficient reason to get married, but neither is their appearance or their hobbies taken in isolation from the rest of their personality.


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Old Nov 20, 2007, 02:26 pm   #31 (permalink) (top)
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Gee, now why would you have presumed I was talking about you, unless you agree that you're making unfounded, sweeping generalizations? Besides, my disagreement is with your opinion. I don't know you.
Then it should be easy: Stop talking about me.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 02:52 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
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If you do not understand the difference between the genders, then you are completely hopeless. Get back on topic. You childishly steered this thread into this conversation about me.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 02:58 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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I agree Ish, a person's employment says more about them than looks. Wait!...I'm unemployed! (but happily)


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Old Nov 20, 2007, 03:24 pm   #34 (permalink) (top)
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so what

women are whores,

pay up and enjoy
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 05:04 pm   #35 (permalink) (top)
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I agree Ish, a person's employment says more about them than looks. Wait!...I'm unemployed! (but happily)
This is really sad. Obviously neither one of you have ever been in love, wouldn't know what love even is. What a sick, sad world. I have absolutely nothing in common with you people- thank god!
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 05:04 pm   #36 (permalink) (top)
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The 90% of women marrying "up" statistic is misleading because women generally earn less than men.

In my personal experience women are far more emotional than men and are usually therefore less shallow.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 05:14 pm   #37 (permalink) (top)
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So I agree their salary alone isn't sufficient reason to get married, but neither is their appearance or their hobbies taken in isolation from the rest of their personality.
Look, this is very simple- you act like you've never met a real live American woman before. You know and I know and everybody else knows that the salary is the 'deal closer' for women. Period He can be 'fun,' good looking, smart, charming, funny and on and on and on, but at the end of the day, he's not 'marriage material' if he isn't making X a year- just considered a female-style booty call.

Haven't had much experience with women, have you?
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 05:20 pm   #38 (permalink) (top)
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Christ, these sexual politics. It's threads like this which make me wish I was 100% gay...instead of like 68%.

Men and women are both idiots in general. Women are probably worse, but only marginally. What are you going to do about it? Either you give up on the whole of humanity, or you judge each individual on their merits. It's misanthropy or nothing as far as this pirate is concerned.

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Old Nov 20, 2007, 05:23 pm   #39 (permalink) (top)
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The 90% of women marrying "up" statistic is misleading because women generally earn less than men.

In my personal experience women are far more emotional than men and are usually therefore less shallow.
Paleeese. In regards to women's earnings compared to men's statistically, that's just a small difference- what- 76 cents for every dollar? Women aren't looking for a man making 24 cents more an hour, they're looking for a man that makes a lot more and I mean.. a LOT more than they do. You know that.

You have it backwards, being more emotional makes you more shallow because you're basing important decisions based on fleeting feelings you are feeling at the moment.
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Look, this is very simple- you act like you've never met a real live American woman before. You know and I know and everybody else knows that the salary is the 'deal closer' for women. Period He can be 'fun,' good looking, smart, charming, funny and on and on and on, but at the end of the day, he's not 'marriage material' if he isn't making X a year- just considered a female-style booty call.

Haven't had much experience with women, have you?
If you could cease with the unsupported assumptions, support your contentions with more than personal anecdotes and realize that assuming to know what I and everyone else thinks invalidates your generalities, you might actually have a debatable opinion.

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I have absolutely nothing in common with you people
Yeah, that gives me kind of a warm feeling, too.


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