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Old Nov 18, 2007, 10:19 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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After the Oil Crisis, a Food Crisis?

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After the Oil Crisis, a Food Crisis? - TIME

Is the world headed for a food crisis? India, Mexico and Yemen have seen food riots this year. Argentines boycotted tomatoes during the country's recent presidential elections when the vegetable became more expensive than meat; and in Italy, shoppers organized a one-day boycott of pasta to protest rising prices. In late October, the Russian government, hoping to ease tensions ahead of parliamentary elections early next year, announced a price freeze for milk, bread and other foods through the end of January.
This problem is directly tied to the price of oil. Food shortages are likely to incease displeasure with governments and citizen revolts.
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 12:17 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Wait until the really get the concept of creating ethanol for fuel really rolling.


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Old Nov 19, 2007, 08:48 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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i took advantage of this bad news about increasing food costs and made a pile of money on investing in a major agricultural (primarily corn) company...

read this article if you're interested about the reasons behind the increased costs. there are more factors to the increased prices than higher energy costs... everything from global warming, to globalization..

Food Vs. Fuel - Forbes.com


and on a side note, these droughts are global in nature and can have extremely bad consequences:

The Heat Is Online


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Old Nov 19, 2007, 09:21 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I truly don't understand why everyone with a yard is not growing their own fruits and veggies (to the extent their local climate will allow).

I am planning our first garden ever at my fathers house, and next year I intend to be raising the bulk of our veggies.


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Old Nov 19, 2007, 09:26 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I truly don't understand why everyone with a yard is not growing their own fruits and veggies (to the extent their local climate will allow).

I am planning our first garden ever at my fathers house, and next year I intend to be raising the bulk of our veggies.
I think you know why

Americans with any amount of money would rather buy it plastic sealed and then whine about the costs.


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Old Nov 19, 2007, 09:28 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Wait until the really get the concept of creating ethanol for fuel really rolling.


You ain't seen nuthin yet.
No joke. That is already when caused unrest in Mexico. We know corn is to them what wheat is to us, and already so much of it is going to ethanol that the people are hurt by a shortage of corn for food. We have to change how we live, or there is going to a mass die off.
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 09:31 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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i took advantage of this bad news about increasing food costs and made a pile of money on investing in a major agricultural (primarily corn) company...

read this article if you're interested about the reasons behind the increased costs. there are more factors to the increased prices than higher energy costs... everything from global warming, to globalization..

Food Vs. Fuel - Forbes.com


and on a side note, these droughts are global in nature and can have extremely bad consequences:

The Heat Is Online
Ouch! you made bad news even worse. I am glad you were got to advantage of the unfortunate events. At least there something good came out of the bad.
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 09:32 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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I truly don't understand why everyone with a yard is not growing their own fruits and veggies (to the extent their local climate will allow).

I am planning our first garden ever at my fathers house, and next year I intend to be raising the bulk of our veggies.
believe it or not, that is one of the only reasons why i want a house of my own, rather than renting and being able to live so close to the city. my parents grow a ton of stuff at their house to the point where they rarely buy any veggies during the summer.

i'm surprised that you've waited so long to get one going at your place...


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Old Nov 19, 2007, 09:34 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Ouch! you made bad news even worse. I am glad you were got to advantage of the unfortunate events. At least there something good came out of the bad.
that's the rule to investing - there's always an opportunity to profit. sometimes, though, those opportunities are tied to bad things - like profiting off of expensive food, expensive energy, wars, etc..


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Old Nov 19, 2007, 09:46 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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I think you know why

Americans with any amount of money would rather buy it plastic sealed and then whine about the costs.
Your first garden, huh? And how experienced are you at canning? I think you are about to learn things you didn't even know a gardener needs to know.

The cost of watering a garden is beyond some people's means. Pay attention to how to conserve water in the garden. Our homes are not designed to store a year's worth of canned food, and if you don't get enough food from the garden it isn't worth doing. .
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 09:52 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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that's the rule to investing - there's always an opportunity to profit. sometimes, though, those opportunities are tied to bad things - like profiting off of expensive food, expensive energy, wars, etc..
I just don't think in those terms. I wish one of my grandsons would pay attention to investing though. I think he has a mind for it and would do well. I will mention what you have said about investing. How much money is required for a good investment? Someone told me it isn't worth investing money unless you have a couple of thousand dollars to invest. Kind of like gardening. Your return isn't worth the investment, if don't have enough to invest and know what you are doing.
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Old Nov 19, 2007, 10:01 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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i'm surprised that you've waited so long to get one going at your place...
You haven't seen our yard.....


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Old Nov 21, 2007, 02:45 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Americans with any amount of money would rather buy it plastic sealed and then whine about the costs.
I don't bother w/ a garden per se. A few tomato and pepper plants, but mostly herbs around the yard. Love thos fresh picked herbs when I am cooking up supper.

Reason: My time. It is more valuable in terms of earning money than it is pretending to be a farmer. By the time harvest time comes around, all of the organic farmers in the area are flush with a cornicopia of fruits and vegetables. I buy from them and use my time that would be spent farming on other areas of interest and work. Works for me and supports my local organic farmer.


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Old Nov 22, 2007, 12:13 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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I truly don't understand why everyone with a yard is not growing their own fruits and veggies (to the extent their local climate will allow).
I don't have a yard. But I'm going to check out those hydroponic things where you just add water and food.


I'd like to thank Charlie Hodge, bringing me scarves and water.
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 12:25 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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I truly don't understand why everyone with a yard is not growing their own fruits and veggies (to the extent their local climate will allow).
Hopefully you don't live in a part of the country where climate change is bringing drought and water crises.

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Old Nov 22, 2007, 08:38 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Hopefully you don't live in a part of the country where climate change is bringing drought and water crises.
If you are asking if I live in a floodplain, or a designed disaster area, no, I don't. Thank goodness my parents had the sense not to live in such areas. We live in a higher area, near the center of the Great Lakes.


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Old Nov 22, 2007, 11:32 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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No, I meant water crisis as in not enough water...

Southeast drought hits crisis point

Scientists predict Southwest mega-drought

Besides, I don't see the food crisis Athena's referring to as affecting us for some time... watch Africa. Then southern Asia.

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Old Nov 22, 2007, 01:16 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah, we're gonna hit a fresh water crisis before we hit a food crisis, as the US is Canada's #1 customer for fresh water, and we're the #1 exporters of it.... I believe we could be put in a difficult situation.
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Old Nov 22, 2007, 01:40 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Actually, this is more an op-ed piece, rather than actual Breaking News, Athena. Sorry, but I'm going to move it.


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Old Nov 22, 2007, 02:04 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Lafe Erie laps the shores of Toledo, so even when we do get droughts, we can just turn on the tap.
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