Help Arrives for Homeless Newborn Triplets, Mom

[Dieval]

Quote by: article GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — Offers of help are pouring in for a homeless Michigan woman who recently gave birth to triplets. ... Roberts' life began to unravel just over a year ago, when she lost her job, was evicted from her Middleville apartment and became overwhelmed by several thousand dollars of debt. Roberts said she became pregnant by a man whom she met at a tavern. FOXNews.com - Help Arrives for Homeless Newborn Triplets, Mom - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

You know, it's great that people want to help and are throwing useful items at this lady.....

What really irks me though is the fact that she lost her job, then met a guy in a bar, decided to have unprotected sex and get WAY knocked up... If you're jobless, soon to be homeless, you'd think people would use a little common sense and try REALLY HARD to NOT get pregnant.

[carriew]

devils advocate here but how do you know she didnt try to not get pg??? maybe they wore a condom and it broke.

unless you were there you have NO IDEA.

i think its great people are trying to help her. and those babies are georgous!

[Athena]

Quote by: Dieval You know, it's great that people want to help and are throwing useful items at this lady..... What really irks me though is the fact that she lost her job, then met a guy in a bar, decided to have unprotected sex and get WAY knocked up... If you're jobless, soon to be homeless, you'd think people would use a little common sense and try REALLY HARD to NOT get pregnant.

I came to this post looking for something uplifting and happy. Your judgment of this unfortunate human experience, ruined a good story.

[Dieval]

Quote by: carriew devils advocate here but how do you know she didnt try to not get pg??? maybe they wore a condom and it broke. unless you were there you have NO IDEA. i think its great people are trying to help her. and those babies are georgous!

Amazing what a different article shows...

Quote by: another article about her One night last winter, feeling especially lonely, she said she visited a bar, met a 30-year-old single man with three children of his own, and engaged in unprotected sex. Newhouse News Service - At Shelter, Mom Makes Home For Newborn Triplets

[Dieval]

Quote by: Athena I came to this post looking for something uplifting and happy. Your judgment of this unfortunate human experience, ruined a good story.

"unfortunate human experience"?? Are you serious? I'll grant you that it's unfortunate she lots her job(although who know's WHY she lost it)...but having unprotected sex, when you're out of work and on the virge of being homeless is down right STUPID.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Athena I came to this post looking for something uplifting and happy. Your judgment of this unfortunate human experience, ruined a good story.

Of course, because we're supposed to instantly trash anyone who is poor and reproduces.
Anything to distract from the systematic policies that ultimately made her homeless.
Obviously, it's not as though losing one's job instantly makes someone homeless, it's a matter of policy.

But it's supposed to be unthinkable to criticize the system of evictions and other enforced punishments. That perspective is not supposed to exist. Just bash the homeless and pretend the system is absolutely above all criticism.

Grandpa h.

[Osborn F Enready]

Looking for the good in everything Athena, only leaves you grabbing at straws in some situations.

The woman is being rewarded for her lack of responsibility.

Why rejoice?

[grandpa]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Looking for the good in everything Athena, only leaves you grabbing at straws in some situations. The woman is being rewarded for her lack of responsibility.

Oh yes, and the policies that made her homeless were wholesome, I'm sure.
It's not as though homelessness occurs for some unknown reason. It occurs because the system of coercion and private property, which constantly threatens people if they do not obey.
You can call that "responsibility," if you want, but I'd simply call it tyranny.

Grandpa h.

[Osborn F Enready]

Gramps said: Oh yes, and the policies that made her homeless were wholesome, I'm sure.

Why put words in my mouth? Did I say that, or did you ASSUME it?

I think you know the answer as well as I know your tactics.

Gramps said: It's not as though homelessness occurs for some unknown reason.

Obviously. That is why I take such offense at your ASSUMING.

Gramps said: It occurs because the system of coercion and private property, which constantly threatens people if they do not obey.

And again, you ASSUME the system is at fauly, and that it could have NOTHING to do with her failing in her personal responsibility.

Gramps said: You can call that "responsibility," if you want, but I'd simply call it tyranny.

Well, good thing you aren't trusted as a source for "definitions".

[brien]

We don't know the specifics of this woman's intentions so to judge her is perhaps premature at best.

Like it or not, she qualifies for ADC. It is the father who needs to step up to the plate here and be a responsible person financially for his own offspring. If not, he should be billed and pay for every cent that the government has to pay for their children.

As for public charity, this is another example of how private donations can take the place of public assistance. People have hearts and are usually more than willing to help folks who are placed in difficult situations.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: carriew devils advocate here but how do you know she didnt try to not get pg??? maybe they wore a condom and it broke. unless you were there you have NO IDEA. i think its great people are trying to help her. and those babies are georgous!

She wasn't married and had no real means of support: she had no business even having sex.

If women don't want to get pregnant, they shouldn't be letting some guy dip his wick into them.

[Dieval]

Quote by: grandpa Oh yes, and the policies that made her homeless were wholesome, I'm sure.

The "policies" that made her homeless? I thought not paying your rent/mortgage would make you homeless....you read FAR FAR FAR too much in to this.

Quote by: Os The woman is being rewarded for her lack of responsibility. Why rejoice?

It doesn't happen often, but this time, I agree with Os..

[Sweet Katie]

Okay, let's just state (for the sake of argument) that the mother is a worthless skank who will spread her legs faster than . . . umm . . . okay . . . me! (But, I work and pay my bills!) However, the children don't deserve to suffer because of their mother's irresponsibility. The amount of time spent judging the mother appears to have distorted what's really important . . . the babies and humanity!



It's a nice article.

[Sweet Katie]

Quote by: Chancellor She wasn't married and had no real means of support: she had no business even having sex. If women don't want to get pregnant, they shouldn't be letting some guy dip his wick into them.

Unless you slept through sex education, you should know that there was another person in the room when the babies were made!

[Sweet Katie]

Quote by: grandpa Oh yes, and the policies that made her homeless were wholesome, I'm sure. It's not as though homelessness occurs for some unknown reason. It occurs because the system of coercion and private property, which constantly threatens people if they do not obey. You can call that "responsibility," if you want, but I'd simply call it tyranny. Grandpa h.

From what I understand, there's a direct link between mental illness and homelessness. And mental illness is a disease, not a stigma.

[Dieval]

Quote by: Sweet Katie Okay, let's just state (for the sake of argument) that the mother is a worthless skank who will spread her legs faster than . . . umm . . . okay . . . me! (But, I work and pay my bills!) However, the children don't deserve to suffer because of their mother's irresponsibility. The amount of time spent judging the mother appears to have distorted what's really important . . . the babies and humanity! It's a nice article.

The babies are definitly not at fault here, but they do deserve a mother who's not a, as you put it, "worthless skank".

Quote by: Sweet Katie Unless you slept through sex education, you should know that there was another person in the room when the babies were made!

I think the "worthless skank" slept through sex ed or she would know how babies were made...

[Osborn F Enready]

Dieval said: I think the "worthless skank" slept through sex ed or she would know how babies were made...

...and how to responsibly prevent them if she insisted on having sex.

[Sweet Katie]

Quote by: Dieval The babies are definitly not at fault here, but they do deserve a mother who's not a, as you put it, "worthless skank".

You're opening up a big can of worm, there. Are you advocating the babies of all promiscious females be put in foster homes? Are you advocating going into bars and forcing the loose women to give up their offspring?

Again, for the sake of argument, let's assume that she's a substandard mother. Often times, this "wild" period in a female's life is just a phase that women outgrow. It happens without regard to economic background. Perhaps the bigger disappointment is that the mother didn't have the support around to help her through the tough times. For example, I have to work for a living and am blessed that my sister helps me out. One year I took my sister's school aged children to the mall and purchased their school clothes. Most of us can recite instances like these in our own lives. This mother is obviously starting from a place where many of us should be thankful we didn't have to.

[Sweet Katie]

Quote by: Dieval I think the "worthless skank" slept through sex ed or she would know how babies were made...

According the article listed, she felt "down", went to a bar, and engaged in risky sex. It could be argued that she was using sex to fill a void in her life. The argument could be made that she only values herself as the sum of her sex, that she feels worthless otherwise.

[Dieval]

Quote by: Sweet Katie You're opening up a big can of worm, there. Are you advocating the babies of all promiscious females be put in foster homes? Are you advocating going into bars and forcing the loose women to give up their offspring?

How about irresponsible homeless mothers of triplets?

Quote by: Sweet Katie Again, for the sake of argument, let's assume that she's a substandard mother

Assume? I think we're beyond assumption here.

Quote by: Sweet Katie Often times, this "wild" period in a female's life is just a phase that women outgrow. It happens without regard to economic background. Perhaps the bigger disappointment is that the mother didn't have the support around to help her through the tough times.

That is no excuse for not knowing where children come from and how to prevent them.

Quote by: Sweet Katie For example, I have to work for a living and am blessed that my sister helps me out. One year I took my sister's school aged children to the mall and purchased their school clothes. Most of us can recite instances like these in our own lives. This mother is obviously starting from a place where many of us should be thankful we didn't have to.

That's great that you took them shopping, but I'm not really seeing a connection between your example and the "worthless skank".